Message from @PieOhMy

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2019-08-04 01:58:45 UTC  

i just want to point out that according to that response result, a majority of the black people they surveyed were democrats

2019-08-04 01:59:07 UTC  

Literally if you go up to a black person and ask 'democrat or republican' you can automatically assume the answer to your question

2019-08-04 01:59:43 UTC  

"Should you get paid for free by the government for shit that happened a long ass time ago and have no strings attached but it be at the expense of literally everyone else"

2019-08-04 02:00:20 UTC  

Tis a question of the good or yourself or the good of society, and when your life or wellbeing is not at stake, a normal human being would rather society benefit as a whole than take a small benefit to themselves

2019-08-04 03:31:16 UTC  

Dunno what I'm seeing is that, on issues, minorities are a lot less Democrat than they are in voting. Something I already noticed. Remember for the black respondents the question was *should we give you money?* (what I like to call 'Yang voting')And they answered yes at aa lower percentage than they vote D. Same for Hispanics. When you ask on *issues* minorities lean a lot further right than voting trends would have you believe. But half a century of 'Weepubwicans are Wassist' propaganda has an effect I suppose.

2019-08-04 05:12:43 UTC  

@Jym Yeah, many minorities often lean less democrat on specific issues, but they vote as a block due to strategy and tribal affiliation. One of the points of strategy being, whites are perceived as the biggest competitor when it comes to power, so banding in coalition seems essential to challenging that power. Meanwhile, whites tend to be more inclined to issue voting, because most don't operate under the same kind of threat narrative. It's a complacency which is likely to erode the less of a majority whites are, and they begin to recognize their vulnerability to predatory coalitions. The irony being that the less of a majority whites become, the less imperative it is for these coalitions to *maintain coalition.* The less of an obstacle whites are perceived to be, the more minorities will begin jockeying for factional power, rather than coalition power. There are already signs of this with Muslim representatives, challenging Israel with offhand remarks. The Jewish faction of the coalition is often very swift in course correcting such dissidents, and putting them back on mission, "Stop infighting, the real obstacle is white men!"

2019-08-04 05:19:07 UTC  

I really don't see whites as being very issue oriented as voters. Hardly anyone is TBH. Most people don't know their own congressman's voting record, It's mostly choosing a jersey and rooting for a team.

2019-08-04 05:21:14 UTC  

Make no mistake, most people in general are extremely low information voters.

2019-08-04 05:23:21 UTC  

More often than not, people will operate in a tribal fashion. But when comparing demographics, whites are more split between parties over issues other than over race. Or at least, that has been the case until more recently. It's being forced into being a priority issue, where for at least a few decades, interest in that dimension of politics among whites had been declining considerably.

2019-08-04 05:24:47 UTC  

And there seem to be two primary factors. Proximity to a dramatic demographic shift, and antagonism from the media. The secondary factor, chan culture and whatnot, is more a consequence than a cause.

2019-08-04 05:29:05 UTC  

Well not really. Like I said the DNC has been pushing the republicans racist narrative for a long time and the media and education are left so they have been backing it. Because formationaly they are far enough left that they don't represent many Americans at all on the issues. The whole white identity thing is just an unintended consequence of their misguided social engineering. You take a generation of young people and raise them with the idea that race is somehow a fundamental category and even when they rebel they hold that paradigm. Which makes them useless as conservatives.

2019-08-04 05:32:51 UTC  

Yes, they have been pushing this narrative for a while, and it's generally either worked, or been ignored. Pretty much no one has been attacking the legitimacy of the moral premise being presented. That people preferring their own is inherently wicked, and uniquely so for whites, more than for any other group.

2019-08-04 05:42:39 UTC  

Of all the truly wicked conceptions of the 20th century, few are as wicked as the assertion that love for brothers in the other races of mankind can only come at the cost of despising their own.

2019-08-04 05:43:22 UTC  

Or of apathy for their nature, their history, their values, their family.

2019-08-04 05:43:49 UTC  

Apathy or antipathy for their legacy.

2019-08-04 06:21:39 UTC  

big oof if true

2019-08-04 06:22:16 UTC  
2019-08-04 08:18:32 UTC  

jews support reparations at a higher rate than blacks i bet

2019-08-04 09:59:43 UTC  

JOOS

2019-08-04 11:38:13 UTC  
2019-08-04 11:38:44 UTC  

I hate when conservatives go "climate change does not exist, or we aren't *sure* it exists blaa blaa blabedi blaa".

2019-08-04 11:39:18 UTC  

Because they violate "their" principle of facts not caring about their feelings there. They don't want to accept the fact.

2019-08-04 11:46:30 UTC  

> nuclear: exists
> populist conservatives: our coal industry!

2019-08-04 11:56:22 UTC  

idiots are scared of nuclear. it's bipartisan.

2019-08-04 11:57:11 UTC  

while it's a great series, i doubt HBO's Chernobyl has helped.

2019-08-04 12:06:42 UTC  

> free, limitless, pollution free energy: exists
> socialists: we need to make these "renewable" sources profitable with tax money, since non-renewable (but limitless) is product of Satan.

2019-08-04 12:08:22 UTC  

They really fetishize on the renewable part and insist on nuclear being non-renewable (even though the fuel has endless supply and is CO2 neutral). Though, if we go all pedantic, they use the Sun's energy and Sun's fusion fuel is **NON-RENEWABLE**, i.e solar and wind is non-renewable as well.

2019-08-04 12:10:37 UTC  

There's no such thing as renewable fuel. It would go against laws of thermodynamics. Nothing is renewable as the universe travels toward it's inevitable heat-death.

2019-08-04 12:12:21 UTC  

@whiic You should change that to neocons and even libertarians than populist conservatives

2019-08-04 12:12:46 UTC  

Since they are the ones protecting coal industries and are against govt. sanctions

2019-08-04 12:13:28 UTC  

Libertarians mostly because of their principles, neocons mostly because they have been bribed by lobbyists

2019-08-04 12:15:42 UTC  

See Ted Kaczynski, for instance, who was a Right Wing environmentalist

2019-08-04 12:39:20 UTC  

@Monstrous Moonshine So is Trump and MAGA
A) neocon or
B) libertarian?

2019-08-04 12:40:33 UTC  

Trump is populist in some aspects, neocon in some other aspects

2019-08-04 12:40:54 UTC  

And the neocon part is mostly due to his advisers and donors, not his base

2019-08-04 12:43:33 UTC  

Anyway, time to do the lawnmowing. Here's something to listen to via wireless headset: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC-r0izU4j0

2019-08-04 12:44:06 UTC  

(I know. Economic nationalist. Not nazi, thus not interesting, probable sellout cuck and Jew. Not interested in your opinion.)