besides, apparently the bill's timeline exceeds the possible lifespans of anyone directly effected

That's how most time-locked bills work. Better to overestimate than underestimate.

Exactly. Otherwise you have to do it all again for those who are left.

I mean, it shouldn't have been a time-locked fucking bill in the first fucking place, because these people sacrificed everything for their country when it needed them.

Seriously, what's the "reasonable" counterpoint to this?

There's a difference between being fiscally responsible, and being fiscally autistic.

^^^

timelocking is just weird.
>"were you a 1st responder in the 5 boroughs in sept 2001?"
done.

that's the supposed intent

well the specific terminology is "sunset clause"

w/e

because 'expiration date' would be too honest

Sounds reasonable to me, it's a bill that costed 4.2 billions until now, for ten years. And he wans to talk about how much it will cost until 2090, and maybe put some amendments.

The thing is going to pass anyway, why not talk about it before passing it?

setting the time that far out is stupid. don't even need a time line if it's just that one box to check.
also, if you living fine in 50yrs, then obviously you don't need it

exactly, its insurance

now we paying for everything else about your entire life

should be more targeted

also it must be pointed out that 4.2 billion is fucking chicken feed for what washington spends without a second thought on foreign interventions

Maybe put an amendment, if all the responders die before 2090 stop the funding.

I don't know. Secualr Talk above said 500 miillions.

no need.
no time line; just "were you a 1st responder in the 5 boroughs in sept 2001?"
what all else they trying to cram in there? seems set up to continue to be a political partisan document

Yeah that also could work.

Low IQ foreign interventions

And they want to brow-beat my generation about patriotism, fucks sake

I need a drink

I ain't brow beating you about patriotism, I'm giving you a reasonable counterpoint.

*they = congress and washington

Tangent, then.

partially

I still hold Ron and Rand as the only Reps with brains, but god damn, this is just irritating

goal - treat health conditions of 1st responders arising from responding to 9/11.
just do that. it's not hard, at all.
the fact that they are making it harder than that means some b.s. is going on

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yeah basically

but *everyone* is making it harder than it needs to be

Yeah, everyone just want to pass it until 2090.

that's dumb

pointless

Some amendments sound nice to me.

the "bs" is that congress and the state department are busy giving the biggest slice of the budget pie to the Saudis and Israel as they can, and only break out the "but what about the cost" argument when that money is going back to the tax payer

neither party, neither organ of congress, and no department of government is innocent in this