Message from @BrandonChimaria (。◕‿◕。✿)

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2019-07-28 01:11:17 UTC  

If you increase wages, less jobes, and competition gets worse on a labor force.
And in stores regular prices inflates to stay with competition.

And it goes the opposite, if you lower the wages, more jobes, less money, less prices on stores...

As I previously said, it's a broken system.

2019-07-28 01:11:42 UTC  

*if you raise wages by a drastic margin overnight

2019-07-28 01:12:05 UTC  

it needs to be done much slower than they're doing, but it still needs to be done

2019-07-28 01:12:12 UTC  

Doesn't matter, the money is the controling factor of how it plays with competition, and demands.

2019-07-28 01:13:15 UTC  

and where the fuck are you getting these metrics? less wages means more jobs? it means people without means to even house themselves, let alone get employment

2019-07-28 01:13:31 UTC  

It wage is increaed, or lowered.
The town of the area also gets effected from the local competion, since everyone fights for more profit.

2019-07-28 01:13:52 UTC  

It's just basic fucking economics.

2019-07-28 01:14:16 UTC  

in their section of market, sure. You won't see a brewery competing with a hot dog factory or some shit

2019-07-28 01:14:51 UTC  

Yes, more jobs = less pay, becuause then you'll be supplying more for a majority.

2019-07-28 01:15:09 UTC  

You still need to consider the workplace.

2019-07-28 01:15:50 UTC  

Like I said, it's a fucky system.

2019-07-28 01:15:51 UTC  

I think its you not considering shit here. you still have yet to justify this notion that directly lowering wages will increase employment

2019-07-28 01:16:32 UTC  

Yes lowering wages increase employment.
But then you still need to worry about competition about the local area's supplying that demand.

2019-07-28 01:16:54 UTC  

>yes
that's not a fucking justification. that's an assertion

2019-07-28 01:17:06 UTC  

citations, bitch

2019-07-28 01:17:33 UTC  

just seeing the wind blow in one direction on this issue doesn't automatically make the opposite true

2019-07-28 01:18:20 UTC  

The main focus is business competition.
One can come in, and make one business go out of business, because the other business does a better profit, then causes job loss.

2019-07-28 01:19:01 UTC  

Business, and marketing.

2019-07-28 01:19:03 UTC  

holy fuck and you think to lecture me on "basic economics"

2019-07-28 01:19:13 UTC  

it is in no fucking way that direct or simple

2019-07-28 01:19:23 UTC  

Trying to make it simple.

2019-07-28 01:19:32 UTC  

and sounding like a child

2019-07-28 01:19:52 UTC  

Well most of the time, I need to do it this way for alot of people, so no judge.

2019-07-28 01:20:18 UTC  

Yes, a sharp jump in mandated wages is a shock to the market and employment economy, because businesses have already laid an internal infrastructure for the wages they already have

2019-07-28 01:20:37 UTC  

and as such had no reason to prepare for such an ill-concieved wage raise

2019-07-28 01:21:08 UTC  

This is not proof that going the opposite direction will magically make all of these effects perfectly reverse

2019-07-28 01:21:14 UTC  

Reason why, hiking up the price in wages, where the left is declairing, is such an economic mistake in this concurrent system.

2019-07-28 01:21:33 UTC  

Everything goes up, if that is pushed.

2019-07-28 01:21:43 UTC  

So it doesn't make anything better.

2019-07-28 01:21:50 UTC  

It just remains the same.

2019-07-28 01:22:41 UTC  

You're still avoiding explaining how directly intervening in wages in the opposite direction, lowering them, will somehow increase employment or competition

2019-07-28 01:22:56 UTC  

This is why I did the bitcoin example for computer parts.
The virtual coin literally hurt the dollar for like 7 months.
Till inflation when back to normal, from bitcoin value.

2019-07-28 01:22:59 UTC  

and I swear to fuck if you just respond with "yes it does" and nothing else

2019-07-28 01:26:32 UTC  

But...
If the "$30 wage" are only for bigger business that can support it, it can work.
But... that would just make people switch to that job "if quilified", becuase wage hike.
Then making the other companies lose worker force.
Then that would probably set the scale of a difference in economy once you start thinking the difference.

2019-07-28 01:27:12 UTC  

So he just avoids the question, fine.

2019-07-28 01:27:15 UTC  

Might turn out like california once you start thinking actually.

2019-07-28 01:28:06 UTC  

That could also infect house living aswell.

2019-07-28 01:29:19 UTC  

Mhm, much thought on the matter tbh.

2019-07-28 01:36:19 UTC  

Protests continue in Hong Kong
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaOtLKrnF8E

2019-07-28 01:44:34 UTC  

There are plenty of studies regarding the minimum wage and how it affects job growths.
The latest i have regarding Seattle Minimum wage law states that: "Seattle’s minimum wage ordinance appears to have delivered higher pay to experienced workers at the cost of reduced opportunity for the inexperienced." Meaning that the employers are willing to pay 15$ for experienced workers already trained in their own job, but if you are a worker with little experience you will get less chance to get a job and be trained in the workplace.

2019-07-28 01:44:41 UTC  

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