Yes.

But then, even with symmetric knowledge, there's asymmetric priorities.

Yeah. But then, even with a wall, illegals overstay their visas

That's why you don't let them in to begin with.

Until you have the reasonable ability to actually remove illegals in a timely fashion should they overstay their visas, you just shouldn't let them in, as a general rule.

I agree with that, I was making an analogy

The only reason why this is tolerated, is because the people trusted with managing this system benefit more from its violation, and those who should be holding them accountable are not.

In other words, even if a second problem exists, doesn't mean we shouldn't attempt to address the first problem

I made that statement before reading the graphic you linked.

https://youtu.be/EFagvNq6-QM

This is also a great debate

I'm somewhat familiar with Radical Capitalist

He argues for a standard Rothbardian ancap in this debate, just with pragmatic leanings in the current era

In other words, he would argue for closed borders etc. until sufficient conditions for full privatization are reached

Spencer argues for Statism

Just checked his website, and saw a bunch of pro-christianity articles in a row, yech.

Christianity has, to an extent, be pretty decent on maintaining and encouraging moral and responsible behavior in the masses, but it has a pretty spotty record on actually protecting whites

This debate is from July 2018, many things might've changed since then

I don't think Christianity was argued in this debate though

Spencer argues for White Ethno Statism from an Indo European natural order

I've grown more recently to believe it's probably better, if a religion or spirituality must be employed to combat degeneracy, to utilize a variant which incorporates tribal reincarnation, instead of a completely immaterial afterlife.

This idea of an eternal hereafter, divorced from the collapse of society, has turned into point of vulnerability for nationalism.

"Oh, it's okay if my civilization ends, because Jesus has a place for me in heaven, and everything is going according to God's plan. All the wicked will be judged ....later, and not be me."

Spencer basically just wants an EU, but for white people. Not a fan.

The only non Statist forms of Nationalism I've seen are in National Anarchism and Hoppean covenants

Both of which are highly volatile

There aren't really many non-statist forms of *anything* because statism is exceedingly common.

And how are Hoppean covenants volatile, has one actually been created?

I'm classifying it as volatile with respect to the standard critiques of libertarianism, not through real world examples

Okay, so it's speculative.

https://youtu.be/fJGyYBwgxyA

Also, what I mean by nationalism is basically just that of a people who can be sufficiently coherent in their values, objectives, and nature as to constitute one. It's both a consequence of having a sufficiently coherent people, and something which must be secured to ensure future stability as well.

I'm more of a blood and soil nationalist

That's usually the most organic form for it to take, yes.

Are you familiar with the Loyalty Matrix?

No

It's basically an idea of how to evaluate the strength and persistence of loyalty between a group of people based on three primary factors.

1. Procreation
2. Ritual
3. Survival

Basically, how they reproduce or recruit, what their activity or goal is, and how they avoid dying or going extinct.

If a group of people share all these in common, then they usually are more inclined to be loyal to one another.