Spread also means no unwanted penetration through walls

ie you don't accidentally shoot someone in a adjacent room

22 for home defense

A .32 or 40 will fucking deafen you after the first shot

22 might be best bet.

Yee

Doesn't go through walls, not all that loud, and easy to control so you can fire rapidly even with little experience

And you don't necessarily kill the guy so you don't need to worry about becoming q murderer

Also get more bullets due to small round in magazine

Well, if someone is coming in to my home to go bump in the night, being a murderer of said person is the least of my concerns

For some there is still the concern of ethics so I'm just saying

Though tbh for me too the concern of their health would be very low on my caring list

Never point a gun unless willing to kill. So, not much of an ethics concern.

I understand, my ethics are so damn streamlined that the moment someone decides to enter a home unlawfully and with bad intent, they pretty much forfeit their right to live. Now the law might disagree with me, but..

Well, I live in a place with good castle doctrine protections, so I'm good on that front.

That doesn't mean "shoot to kill" but if it happens, it happens. @SihvMan FL or..?

As a buddy always say make sure its one story when u shoot

Stranger danger! Stranger danger! "Don't give out identifying info online!"

But yeah.

FL

(it's one of the few states that I know that has it)

Over here we really have the opposite

Brit?

we're supposed to exit the house with our family and call the cops unless situation really calls for it

nope, Finland

Ah.

They do know that response time is several minutes, while crime time is less than two minutes, right?

Oh, in rural parts it's shockingly long. We're talking over an hour

Ouch. I'm more small town/suburbs, and the fastest I've ever seen response time was 7 minutes.

Luckily there was a high profile case where a gang of junkies tried to rob a weapons collector (elderly man) who shot them. Not lethally mind you, but enough to cause one of them to use a colostomy bag for the rest of his short life if my memory serves correct and he got off the hook because it was deemed lawful

the collector that is

Nice! Good precedent for later cases.

Indeed, the guy was a huge chad about it as well. He gave interviews where he talked about his hunting trips and how he, despite his age was planning his next trip

lol

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