Message from @Jym

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2019-11-26 00:36:44 UTC  

No you really have the causality backwards here.

2019-11-26 00:36:44 UTC  

doesnt mean we wont still do other things with other countries

2019-11-26 00:36:47 UTC  

you are being foolish

2019-11-26 00:37:27 UTC  

the truth is weve been bending over backwards for the rest of the world for a long time

2019-11-26 00:37:32 UTC  

especially one particular country

2019-11-26 00:37:34 UTC  

America spends 648 billion dollars alone on importing consumer goods @Machinimal

2019-11-26 00:37:35 UTC  

in the middle east

2019-11-26 00:37:51 UTC  

you act as if just naming a figure means you are right

2019-11-26 00:37:52 UTC  

most consumer goods we can produce ourselves

2019-11-26 00:37:57 UTC  

SO I mean if Merkle makes an angry face it doesn't matter. What is best for other places is that we remain strong and financially stable. Because you lesser nations do not have any replacement for us.

2019-11-26 00:38:00 UTC  

At a higher cost.

2019-11-26 00:38:07 UTC  

you have no evidence to suggest what percentage of that will go away

2019-11-26 00:38:10 UTC  

only because of labor standards

2019-11-26 00:38:14 UTC  

Because you do not have the manufacturing capabilities of say for example, China.

2019-11-26 00:38:16 UTC  

you are just speculating and being fearful

2019-11-26 00:38:25 UTC  

we do, but china has no labor standards

2019-11-26 00:38:26 UTC  

So you want to drop your standards down to China-tier? @Machinimal

2019-11-26 00:38:32 UTC  

To compete?

2019-11-26 00:38:41 UTC  

we need to get rid of minimum wage at the very least

2019-11-26 00:38:45 UTC  

Is that the "America first!" you're championing?

2019-11-26 00:38:47 UTC  

648B is such a small number on this scale. And again 2/3rds of our trade is *on the same continent* as us.

2019-11-26 00:39:04 UTC  

we dont need free trade. or to bend to the will of china

2019-11-26 00:39:10 UTC  

648B is a huge number, considering you import 3.1 Trillion per year...

2019-11-26 00:39:22 UTC  

Are you deliberately being obtuse?

2019-11-26 00:39:36 UTC  

we need to reinvest the money we spend on chinese goods on ourselves, incentivize new businesses in the us

2019-11-26 00:39:49 UTC  

besides its all shit anyways

2019-11-26 00:39:51 UTC  

fuck china

2019-11-26 00:40:03 UTC  

you got it all wrong dude

2019-11-26 00:40:06 UTC  

other than china is there even a nation that exports more than it imports

2019-11-26 00:40:14 UTC  

china imports almost all of their food

2019-11-26 00:40:17 UTC  

btw

2019-11-26 00:40:28 UTC  

Key American exports are commercial aircraft and parts. You need the external markets so that you can keep those businesses afloat.

2019-11-26 00:40:37 UTC  

you are acting as if us being tough on our allies/rivals means a large chunk of trade will disappear

2019-11-26 00:40:40 UTC  

when thats not the case

2019-11-26 00:40:41 UTC  

Else, Europe will take the market share.

2019-11-26 00:40:50 UTC  

It's already the case in Europe @UnScottable

2019-11-26 00:40:55 UTC  

lel

2019-11-26 00:40:57 UTC  

europe

2019-11-26 00:41:03 UTC  

Hostile American policy has pushed Europe towards China.

2019-11-26 00:41:07 UTC  

we definitely dont need them

2019-11-26 00:41:15 UTC  

they're not going to stop doing trade with us because trade makes them money