Message from @Monstrous Moonshine

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2019-11-11 17:34:26 UTC  

Ranting Monkey is a seriously retarded person.

2019-11-11 17:35:06 UTC  

And I'm not even a vegan.

2019-11-11 17:42:21 UTC  

Ranting Monkey is actually arguing ethnat logic the entire time: he cannot name traits that make human superior to a cow (like intelligence, moral conscience, etc.) he only does switch terms games like "humans deserve different treatment because they are person, and they are persons because they are human", running in circles between terminology.

2019-11-11 17:45:23 UTC  

The closest to an argument he has was argument from selfishness either personal selfishness (which he failed to even tackle) or selfishness of a population ("it is just because it my group" basically)... because he couldn't even acknowledge any superiority of humans toward other animals (even if such statement would obviously be just subjective).

2019-11-11 17:48:38 UTC  

Basically, he takes the moral nihilist position, where might-makes right and every species should think for themselves and not give the slightest fuck about others, and there would be nothing wrong in killing humans *if you were an alien*. There should only be compassion for your own relatives. And that isn't the most retarded position, if you had the intellect to *actually argue that position* instead of being all over the place and entirely without a point.

2019-11-11 17:48:55 UTC  

Yeah

2019-11-11 17:49:04 UTC  

I mean it would be easy to argue in my mind

2019-11-11 17:49:28 UTC  

But it would be a nihilist argument. There's little room to them scream about "degeneracy".

2019-11-11 17:49:38 UTC  

If you are a moralist, you cannot be a nihilist.

2019-11-11 17:49:41 UTC  

The main point would be that humans are more genetically similar to each other than animals, and are superior

2019-11-11 17:49:54 UTC  

In the nervous system and conscienceness

2019-11-11 17:50:00 UTC  

But also give into society

2019-11-11 17:50:09 UTC  

This is why AR is kinda internally hypocritical: it's highly moralistic on some issues, and totally might makes right anti-moralistic on others.

2019-11-11 17:50:23 UTC  

It's not a virtue-based philosophy.

2019-11-11 17:50:40 UTC  

And it's also not purely nihilistic either.

2019-11-11 17:51:03 UTC  

It's a bastard child of both of them, picking worst aspects from each, creating an abomination.

2019-11-11 17:52:07 UTC  

AR, just like Ranting Monkey, cannot **name the trait**.

2019-11-11 17:52:17 UTC  

AR doesn't believe in "might makes right"

2019-11-11 17:52:19 UTC  

Is it because you’re listening to Nick then someone else ?

2019-11-11 17:52:37 UTC  

Because Nick will argue that god makes the rules

2019-11-11 17:52:40 UTC  

AR believes that "might can be right, in some instances"

2019-11-11 17:52:44 UTC  

AR can name the Jew, but they cannot name the trait.

2019-11-11 17:52:45 UTC  

The alt hyp will disagree

2019-11-11 17:53:23 UTC  

Because if AR named the trait (like IQ) they would have to admit high IQ niggers, and purge the white rednecks.

2019-11-11 17:54:20 UTC  

>AR can name the Jew, but they cannot name the trait.
That's literally incorrect

2019-11-11 17:54:23 UTC  

They don't like to name preferential traits humans should have, they don't like to name virtues to be promoted. It's your race, your culture, by definition, nothing to improve.

2019-11-11 17:54:53 UTC  

@Monstrous Moonshine So high IQ nigger is better than low IQ white? And you are in favor of East Asian immigration to raise IQ?

2019-11-11 17:55:01 UTC  

How is that an ethnostate?

2019-11-11 17:55:32 UTC  

See this for which traits are responsible for typical 'Jewish' behavior

2019-11-11 17:55:59 UTC  

>So high IQ nigger is better than low IQ white? And you are in favor of East Asian immigration to raise IQ?
No

2019-11-11 17:56:07 UTC  

But if some white individual has those "Jewy" traits (and many do) should they be treated like Jews despite being whites?

2019-11-11 17:56:22 UTC  

This is why IQ is a junction, not the end argument

2019-11-11 17:56:28 UTC  

No, because you aren't interested in the trait in whites.

2019-11-11 17:56:51 UTC  

We are interested in many more things than *just* the traits

2019-11-11 17:57:40 UTC  

We see homogeneous societies as an extension of the family unit and hence see it as a moral obligation to the extended kin

2019-11-11 17:57:48 UTC  

Should whites with "Jewy" traits be deported to Israel?

2019-11-11 17:57:52 UTC  

From which stems the concept of nationalism

2019-11-11 17:58:05 UTC  

Should wiggers be deported "back" to Africa?

2019-11-11 17:58:25 UTC  

Arguing racial differences in IQ and IQ nationalism would result in mass importing gooks and pajeets

2019-11-11 17:58:43 UTC  

Jews do cluster with southern Italians so I would say Ashkenazis are racially white, my issue with them is they have split loyalties. Or at least that’s the stereotype