Until society is "unfucked"?
Whatever the literal fuck that means

You just said it's about refusing to play.

also being successful in life women will naturally want to suck your D

yes for the majority

a lot of mgtow are probably just incel in denial

nar, incel is just a insult that the boomers use on men who they don't understand.

it is a thing though

Yeah it's become like the right's version of "cuck", but it exists

mgtow are incels that want to appear as volcels

yeah some, but there are actual mgtows too

most*

haha maybe

Yeah mgtows are cringe

So can the term incel be used literally just for involuntarily single people, or is it used for the uhhh, more unsavoury incels?

Until women dial back on hypergamy and family court change from being lopsided, education becomes less female ruled... incels and migtows and cuckery, soyboyerie will just be continuing in growing numbers.

Why wouldn't when the incentives stay the same

Well until islam dominates the western world and all the women become first world slaves

Prohibit no-fault divorce.

Criminalise adultery.

Good start.

incel can be used for anyone that's invol celibate, but it has become a generic pejorative aimed that anyone who basically looks sexually undesirable and isn't a feminist

@fvriovs That sounds idiotic

That sounds like the working model for the West right up until the sexual revolution.

"Working"

Not sure why you put that in quotes.

You think people divorcing for no reason at all is a good thing?

Or adultery should be promoted?

I suspect, most incels and migtows are 'just' terrified of what's going on with the world whilst they themselves feel powerless.

It'd change in a heartbeat had women weren't shielded from their bad decisions even just a notch.

First no, second one depends on your definition

Adultery. Having sex with someone who is not your spouse.

Then yes

Please clarify @ryvergate

You think that should be promoted?

If it's two single people, then yes

Death to adulterers tbh

I think he means somebody who has a spous, who has sex with their not spous

Well pre-marital sex is different because marriage assumes a responsibility of fidelity to one another.

I'd ideally discourage pre-marital sex though.