the ruling class of liberal orders are incentivized to act in ways that are fundamentally at odds with the mere existence of western people

Of every kind.

@yordanyordanov yes

This is what is killing you and to be honest you are not the first great civilization that is falling under its feet.

this neoliberalism is just the ideology of hedonism

If you are smart enough you will learn your lesson and overcome it, if you are not, well, history.

there are people fighting back, thankfully. But I imagine things will get worse before they get better

america is probably lost

still hope for europe

America is heading for a civil war, guaranteed

who wins that war will decide is America is truly lost

@Death in June Anybody who puts the pursuit of pleasures in the center of his Universe is willing to act that way, don't think your liberal ruling class is any ways better than the commies you want them to come after them.

Actually, probably, they are even worse.

i'm not advocating for communism

and they are certainly better in certain ways

@Kaiser (ICFD) Whomever wins the war will decide the future of the world!

Not just the USA.

indeed

I'm telling you as an outsider.

These two great ideologies would crash once again.

And this time it will be for good.

hopefully this time we can actually kill the red menace

instead of just letting it fester

like we did in the cold war

it has been all but killed

I really hope you will.

no, it's just taken on a new face

the essence of the ideology is far from dead

Cause I'm telling you, if you don', I can only see another Dark Age coming down on the world.

just look at antifa

And it would be a long and painful time.

antifa is a small group

no it isn't

there are quite a few of them

the groups may be small, but there are a lot of groups

and even some named ones

like the ones in portland

their combined strength is less than that of the libertarian party

It really scares me what they can do if they got close with the CCP.

The Chinese now have all the reasons to fund and support them.

You have an enemy within.