Cause they aren’t smart enough to use their phones their always on so the go to the library

It's an INEFFECTUAL communist factory

@Jeremy Basically, my observation is that this is for the moment a perhaps unavoidable consequence of prosperity. Without the urgent scarcity and imminent threat narratives, folks are often unmotivated to confront parasitic behaviors, or to resist indulging in narcissistic displays of token charity. This is unlikely to be addressed until not addressing it becomes credibly lethal.

They can't do anything except bitch

It’s hard to take that as a serious statement because I’m imagining you pfp talking

Indeed, Menace. Philosopher Immanuel Kant once wrote of Envy that,
```…a propensity to view the well-being of others with distress, even though it does not detract from one’s own. [It is] a reluctance to see our own well-being overshadowed by another’s because the standard we use to see how well off we are is not the intrinsic worth of our own well-being but how it compares with that of others. [It] aims, at least in terms of one’s wishes, at destroying other’s good fortune.```

Basically, doing things which allow them to indulge the fantasy that they are morally virtuous is like a kind of drug, and doing things which, within the context of their peer group, could be construed as morally "unfashionable" threatens that self-image, that pleasant lie, and so they will continue to do it until they can no longer afford to.

Peace keeping

This is something which will follow us to the end of *human* civilization.

Amen

And that we've allowed the moral premise to be defined by subversive conmen is a further complication.

Ramen

And, Ben, the reason they're only able to bitch, for the most part, is because they're placate, mostly overweight, behind digital screens all day. I often see technology as a precursor to enslavement, though much good comes from technological advancement of course, but I suppose it works both ways.

Devices are our advancement and our devaluation

I believe, perhaps after the fashion demonstrated in the Mouse Utopia Experiments, human society needs some kind of struggle or hardship, some strife against to refine its merits, and extinguish maladaptive behaviors. That the further we depart from such immediate hardship, the less clear a benchmark of fitness there exists, and the faster we disintegrate into some kind of degeneracy.

Even driving some people into more primal archetypes

Just like Ted Kaczynski once warned us

And the collapse of our civilization will eventually yield this strife, should we fail to adapt to its absence.

A greater evil drives many to a blade and shield for humans

Or a Mossberg

😎

What your proposing is we prefer to have constant death and loss

Too bad we broke the atom

We need failure. We need terminal failure. And we need that failure to reflect the adaptations necessary to navigate the natural world.

So what would that be

Not that this is good, but that this is the mechanism by which our behavior and nature has been shaped for millions of years, and we're woefully ill prepared to exist without it.

Emp

I do love that humans are designed to overcome

I don't think it's necessary to provoke it.

It's going to happen on its own, given time.

Because of how badly adjusted we are to abundance.

I'll agree with most of your statement, but I believe envy is the greater threat in that respect, that which drives altruists to state imposition and genocide. Clearly, it is the wealthy, who are most generous among our society, given their wealth accumulation, and if they wish to be charitable, a Western tradition for millennia, that's permissible. However, imposition via State certainly is not. I'll agree there appears to be a general propensity for one to now feel shame, throughout our society, by not sacrificing your last dollar to those less fortunate, which certainly aligns with your observation. Even I feel this way, whenever I'm asked to engage in an act of charity - there's almost an awkward air of expectation and demand, @Miniature Menace.

Let’s hope it doesn’t turn into a North American purge

I think it’s envy that drives us more than anything today but I do believe we had pride at the wheel for years

Moral indignation and entitlement provides a comfortable nest for envy.

The sense of victimhood, or being a champion for victims.

I prefer nationalism to supranationalism, but not ultranationalism

Indeed, @Miniature Menace.

They have taken something which was once regarded as morally reprehensible, theft, and turned it into a virtue, via victim/oppressor narratives and utopian lies.

Communism or enablism as I enjoy calling it

The virtuous tendency of those you reference, to champion thus harm the most those they obligate themselves to, certainly does reinforce the entitlement, which gives way to the motive to industrialize victimhood.