>Have I said the Saudis are an ally?

No

kek

Yeah but the current mood i've gotten from a lot here in the non-west is that majority want America to gtfo

They want the poor decision making of the USA to GTFO.

They don't want them invading and just pulling out like in Iraq

Which caused ISIS to form.

Only till they suddenly get invaded do they come whimpering back to demand america save them

THAT is what they don't want

Hmm, someone that's not in America that's not telling us what to do?

You could learn a thing or two from Beatless

But they certainly want US influence to remain in the Middle East

They don't want our Democracy

So Russia, Turkey, Israel, Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia can't expand their power and growth @beatless

All things which would cause more conflict.

It's incompatible with the Tribal system that they have

But of course these people don't care about that.

I know, but that's not the optics now

The anti-US sentiment is being pushed by anti-US shills

Israel, Iran, Turkey, Russia

Everyone thinks america is bad and just causes war for colonization

"Everyone thinks"

Certainly not

China too

Yeah, exactly

That's just the propaganda being pushed

Interestingly enough a massive amount of Chinese weapons has appeared in the Middle East.

I'm telling you the optics wrt America in the non-west is degrading

Directly in the hands of ISIS

Even Indians would prefer Russians than America

To fight china <:thunk:462282216467333140>

>What?

Indians have historically been with the Russians and Soviets

A massive amount of their equipment is Russian sourced

Yes

Yeah it's still funny.

They just get better, cheaper stuff from the Ruskis tbh

S300 and 400 for example

The reason people in the ME get upset is because America pulls out too early. Iraq x2, Kurdistan, Iran.

In doing so, cause MORE problems

Problems which wouldn't happen if they stay and actually fix the issues in the country.