Yeah, but the morals Germans are pushing are _correct_ and totally can't go wrong, don't you know?

The size of their markets allow them to use our business interests against us

Western companies should all transfer factories from china to other developing countries instead

China keeps copying

yeah but tf they gonna get that slave labour from?

Vietnam

The USA needs to increase free trade with Europe and invest more, to offset Chinese influence @Sawyer42

IMO

pepega

India

@beatless at least the Tariffs are working to do that a little

Let the Americans beat the Chinese to Europe

Yeah. But the EU too <:thunk:462282216467333140>

bit hard when everyone in the EU thinks trump's a nazi.

I agree but the EU isn’t too friendly to American companies

They don't @Sire Fagsalot

not everyone ofc

And the EU bullies our companies as well

That's because of the rhetoric of the USA, which needs to change @Sawyer42

The EU like control

As does everyone

So?

@Nathan James 123 point taken, but I also think the EU is looking to create market space domestically so they can produce competitors to the US FANG companies

Business-wise. Why would anyone nowadays wanna set up shop with china when it's known they steal IP & will kick you out later after making a cheaper chinese competition anyway

So I’m not sure how much of a difference a change in rhetoric will make

True they are trying to do that, but the larger US companies will be able to dominate newer, younger European ones @Sawyer42

Beat them to it.

Also, beat the Chinese to Europe.

@Nathan James 123 I don’t share your optimism

But I’m not saying your wrong

There's obvious sectors where the US can't compete, aerospace for example

But technology? They can make a massive impact.

Subsidise CISCO, flood Europe with cheap Cisco 5G products.

I think the EU is far more willing to bully against US interests than

I would love that

No disagreement there

Obviously most here would hate to see subsidies ;P

Exactly

The EU obviously does have influence and power

But, I think the US could have a massive impact on 5G deployment in the EU

Make CISCO go directly to each COUNTRY, not to the EU.