Agreed.

but I think an EU military will mean the end of NATO

that's true, but some european states are imagining themselves as the counterweight to the US

Almost certainly.

not very neighborly

at the end of the day I think the world will be tri-polar in 20-30 years

That "unreliable ally" will be broken off.

IE, the EU will leave the USA.

there will be a US block, an EU block and a Chinese block

Yep @Sawyer42

Then there's the other category with places like France and Germany who don't maintain a real military and prefer to side against us. I do not consider them allies.

and we're seeing the end of the Bipolar & unipolar world right now

That's what happens when your "ally" is "unreliable" @leavethisbotnet

Good riddance to ya then

France has a "real military"

Germany, not so much.

@Jym The French Foreign Legion is nothing to shake a stick at

it deploys

often and aggresively

The French military is the second best equiped in Europe.

and effectively

After the British

Sounds like you don't need us to make more problems, we'll just leave things at what we've apparently caused then.

@Jym The Germans are aggresively (probably overly) dedicated to Counter Terrorism

They're too aggresivly dedicated to creating a strong EU military, so that they can have they're millitary ambitions without getting called nazi

Are you opposed to an EU military?

If so, why?

@leavethisbotnet or so the spanish can stop buying tanks

Not categorically

cause why do they need tanks

Currently, the structure of EU is not good at protecting liberty

It's fine at it..

it's not very democratic

European liberty is different to yours

Yes it is. @leavethisbotnet

You'll lose this argument, don't even try it

LOL

It's just fake liberty

I'm european, you dipshit

As am I

And I've argued this point over and over again