Message from @Lêohte

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2019-10-14 16:37:45 UTC  

Just like the Soviet Union, they will face their own collapse, because they couldn't accept the stable and natural order that arises from decentralized economic and social development.

2019-10-14 16:38:47 UTC  

Indeed. They're vigorously digging their own graves.

2019-10-14 16:44:11 UTC  

With a great arrogance that betrays always, GD.

2019-10-14 16:47:21 UTC  

Yep. The bigger the ego, the bigger the pop.

2019-10-14 16:52:24 UTC  
2019-10-14 17:06:56 UTC  

Just remember when the CCP begins sending millions of their bourgeois class to invade the rest of the world, remember their time-tested strategy of invading "peacefully" through slow encroachments.

2019-10-14 17:07:33 UTC  

I wonder what we're going to do. Do you think we'll send them back, or shoot the planes down?

2019-10-14 17:07:51 UTC  

Or, do you reckon the so-called "liberals" will welcome them with open arms?

2019-10-14 17:10:04 UTC  
2019-10-14 17:10:30 UTC  

Muslims do the same thing.

2019-10-14 17:10:45 UTC  

The solution is similar: enforced asimilation.

2019-10-14 17:10:57 UTC  

You want to be a citizen of our country? Follow these rules...

2019-10-14 17:11:12 UTC  

If they don't want to follow them, we don't grant them citizenship.

2019-10-14 17:11:41 UTC  

You know what their objectives will be.

2019-10-14 17:11:58 UTC  

Of course. Projection of soft power through economic influence.

2019-10-14 17:12:04 UTC  

Good luck running COIN with a mass that large.

2019-10-14 17:12:09 UTC  

Again, how is this different from the soft invasion of Islam?

2019-10-14 17:12:27 UTC  

Especially with current rejections of governmental COIN programs necessary to prevent exactly that.

2019-10-14 17:13:09 UTC  

Perhaps in the case of Europe, but at least they're not CCP agents.

2019-10-14 17:13:20 UTC  

We don't have this issue in the United States, with respect to Islam.

2019-10-14 17:14:28 UTC  

the solution is citizenship based on descent*

2019-10-14 17:14:28 UTC  

Chinese communism doesn't proport to govern anyone's afterlife, so there's only so much the CCP can get its infiltrators to do once they've sent them abroad. That's not the case with Islam.

2019-10-14 17:14:50 UTC  

Actually, the solution is Heinleinian citizenship.

2019-10-14 17:15:15 UTC  

Make them work, and work hard, to earn their citizenship. Same for us natives, too.

2019-10-14 17:15:37 UTC  

nah, the nation is deeper than a mere chequebook

2019-10-14 17:15:54 UTC  

Of course. Culture doesn't really care about citizenship.

2019-10-14 17:16:07 UTC  

At least dispersion throughout a geography forces Islamic individuals to assimilate, absent reinforcement, though even a generation later, at least in the United States, Muslims suffer the same fate as Identity Christians, only claiming to be Muslim, without practicing the religion at all.

2019-10-14 17:16:20 UTC  

This wouldn't be the case for millions of CCP agents sent into the U.S.

2019-10-14 17:16:40 UTC  

Dispersing them would only make it more difficult to keep track of their every move.

2019-10-14 17:16:44 UTC  

Well, Trump did just recently cut legal immigration in half.

2019-10-14 17:16:47 UTC  

assimilation would imply miscegenation

2019-10-14 17:17:04 UTC  

what are you referring to goodwood

2019-10-14 17:17:05 UTC  

And every move will be aimed at creating cells, disseminating propaganda, and influencing business and politics.

2019-10-14 17:17:15 UTC  

True enough, GD.

2019-10-14 17:17:21 UTC  

But, imagine this.

2019-10-14 17:17:57 UTC  

The CCP sends over hundreds of planes filled with their own, trained CCP agents, under the auspices of civilians seeking political refuge.

2019-10-14 17:17:59 UTC  

What do you do?

2019-10-14 17:18:15 UTC  

One of the secrets to China's success over the centuries was to simply welcome any invading force, and assimilate them into their culture. The problem is, that cultural norm can work against them if the Chinese decide to try soft invasion. Their culture isn't as robust as ours.

2019-10-14 17:19:25 UTC  

Fair enough, but you don't believe they'd be as resilient as the Soviets were, when sent abroad?

2019-10-14 17:19:26 UTC  

That isn't their only cultural weakness, either. In the absence of a single controlling authority, Chinese culture is prone to drifting about, with no clear goal.

2019-10-14 17:19:43 UTC  

We had sleepers activated decades later, in the beginning of the 21st century.