Indeed. Especially toward authoritarian cultures.

Indeed.

That's why it's worked for so long, despite all attempts to kill it off.

That's why every religion has been decimated in the face of secularism.

Even Christianity couldn't survive in the U.S.

Yep. The only way Islam can win in the end, is if they kill everyone—even themselves.

And by 2050, they'll only represent about 2.5% of the U.S. population.

So, good luck. 😉

The west has to hold the line. We have to teach the newcomers and the new generations the values that got us to such lofty heights.

And that's based on Obama-era, laxed immigration policy.

And we must be willing to defend those ideals to the bitter end.

I imagine the new statistical calculations have a much lower projection with Trump's policies.

Indeed, GD.

GW, thanks. <:Pepe_of_akkad:462279833511264257>

We may and probably will disagree a lot on how to interpret and implement western liberal democracy. But at the end of the day, we both support it and want to see it succeed.

Of course.

This is why we must refrain from irrationality, instead pursuing reflective and thoughtful deliberations on our common concerns in a civilized manner.

Sabotage will go nowhere.

Agreed.

A small, temporary victory is hardly worth dismantling the entire infrastructure.

This applies to politics just as much as military action.

And this will require the entire political spectrum to open themselves up to dialogue with one another, addressing the concerns they may find themselves initially repulsed by.

(But tell that to the Democrats!)

Indeed.

Impeachment as a political weapon was a bad idea in 1868, it's a bad idea in current year.

The irony being impeachment or not, the outcome will be the same.

Indeed.

I do not want a liberal democracy to succeed

The reason we must shake off foreign interference in our politics.

Why is that, Leo?

Obvious bait is obvious.

Indeed.

How is that bait?

Being racially subsumed is not a good modus operandi

Well, GD, some people come from nations who require centralized economic and social planning abroad, so their governments can benefit from the manipulation of oil supply.

Little do they know, decentralization at home would lead to a flourishing and diversified economy, perfectly able to satisfy all their needs, without interfering in the affairs of others.

Indeed.

This is one reason why factory farming is actually a really bad idea.

Take the Russians, for example, or other Eastern European States.

Indeed.

The environmentalists, bless 'em, have always had this one foible: they tend to see problems through their ideological lens. They don't realize there are other reasons, other arguments to be made, to limit the kinds of things that cause so much damn pollution. They hate coal, but they also hate nuclear, and at the same time fail to understand there are other avenues of attack when it comes to convincing people to go green.