Chinese communism doesn't proport to govern anyone's afterlife, so there's only so much the CCP can get its infiltrators to do once they've sent them abroad. That's not the case with Islam.

Actually, the solution is Heinleinian citizenship.

Make them work, and work hard, to earn their citizenship. Same for us natives, too.

nah, the nation is deeper than a mere chequebook

Of course. Culture doesn't really care about citizenship.

At least dispersion throughout a geography forces Islamic individuals to assimilate, absent reinforcement, though even a generation later, at least in the United States, Muslims suffer the same fate as Identity Christians, only claiming to be Muslim, without practicing the religion at all.

This wouldn't be the case for millions of CCP agents sent into the U.S.

Dispersing them would only make it more difficult to keep track of their every move.

Well, Trump did just recently cut legal immigration in half.

assimilation would imply miscegenation

what are you referring to goodwood

And every move will be aimed at creating cells, disseminating propaganda, and influencing business and politics.

True enough, GD.

But, imagine this.

The CCP sends over hundreds of planes filled with their own, trained CCP agents, under the auspices of civilians seeking political refuge.

What do you do?

One of the secrets to China's success over the centuries was to simply welcome any invading force, and assimilate them into their culture. The problem is, that cultural norm can work against them if the Chinese decide to try soft invasion. Their culture isn't as robust as ours.

Fair enough, but you don't believe they'd be as resilient as the Soviets were, when sent abroad?

That isn't their only cultural weakness, either. In the absence of a single controlling authority, Chinese culture is prone to drifting about, with no clear goal.

We had sleepers activated decades later, in the beginning of the 21st century.

The various Chinatowns across the U.S. are basically a Chinese veneer atop an American-leaning core.

The han chinese are expanding in absolute terms

Melting pot > tossed salad.

Social and economic freedom is rather subversive, to say the least.

It is subversive all on its own.

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Indeed. Especially toward authoritarian cultures.

Indeed.

That's why it's worked for so long, despite all attempts to kill it off.

That's why every religion has been decimated in the face of secularism.

Even Christianity couldn't survive in the U.S.

Yep. The only way Islam can win in the end, is if they kill everyone—even themselves.

And by 2050, they'll only represent about 2.5% of the U.S. population.

So, good luck. 😉

The west has to hold the line. We have to teach the newcomers and the new generations the values that got us to such lofty heights.

And that's based on Obama-era, laxed immigration policy.

And we must be willing to defend those ideals to the bitter end.

I imagine the new statistical calculations have a much lower projection with Trump's policies.

Indeed, GD.

GW, thanks. <:Pepe_of_akkad:462279833511264257>

We may and probably will disagree a lot on how to interpret and implement western liberal democracy. But at the end of the day, we both support it and want to see it succeed.