Message from @LockJack

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2019-04-09 11:53:59 UTC  

Stalin actually applied to join NATO, but when rejected, it was clear it was an act of aggression towards the Soviet Union

2019-04-09 11:54:01 UTC  

Poland was a puppet state. Are you denying that?

2019-04-09 11:54:33 UTC  

If The Soviet Union joined NATO, then that would defeat the whole purpose wouldn’t it?

2019-04-09 11:54:36 UTC  

Poland has almost always been a puppet state ever since its collapse of the empire

2019-04-09 11:54:55 UTC  

Occupied by mostly Germany and Russia

2019-04-09 11:55:11 UTC  

Then got a bit of independence, with an extremely reactionary government in WW2

2019-04-09 11:55:15 UTC  

But you can’t say that they agreed to anything it they were coerced.

2019-04-09 11:55:26 UTC  

*if

2019-04-09 11:55:29 UTC  

The government agreed to it

2019-04-09 11:55:50 UTC  

Italy however, was forced into NATO

2019-04-09 11:55:58 UTC  

It was a puppet government installed by Stalin, of course they were going to agree with it!

2019-04-09 11:56:26 UTC  

Otherwise tanks would be rolled into Warsaw

2019-04-09 11:56:50 UTC  

And then Stalin would get the response he wanted

2019-04-09 11:57:15 UTC  

Stalin never sent tanks into Warsaw apart from getting the nazis out of it

2019-04-09 11:57:34 UTC  

Apart from the remaining fascists in Poland, people were happy under stalin in Poland

2019-04-09 11:57:51 UTC  

And late I might add, so that resistance fighters would be mostly killed off.

2019-04-09 11:57:54 UTC  

Khrushchev I will not defend, however

2019-04-09 11:58:11 UTC  

In the Warsaw uprising

2019-04-09 11:58:46 UTC  
2019-04-09 11:58:46 UTC  

“People were happy in Poland under Stalin”

2019-04-09 11:59:12 UTC  

What does this have anything to do with the topic?

2019-04-09 11:59:26 UTC  

Warsaw uprising in 1944 LMAO

2019-04-09 11:59:47 UTC  

You mean the brainwashed fascists and their government?

2019-04-09 12:00:04 UTC  

Poland never had democracy

2019-04-09 12:00:26 UTC  

No Eastern European country before end of WW2 had democracy, except czechiaslovakia

2019-04-09 12:01:18 UTC  

Priest ridden, totalitarian, backwards, semi feudal country

2019-04-09 12:01:27 UTC  

I’m not saying Poland did have democracy...

2019-04-09 12:01:42 UTC  

It was authoritarian

2019-04-09 12:02:03 UTC  

So of course the reactionaries who were used to that wanted to go back to that shitty life before trying out progress

2019-04-09 12:02:56 UTC  

“Trying out progress” is that way Poland was one of the first to demand their independence during the fall of the Soviet Union?

2019-04-09 12:03:24 UTC  

You mean industrialisation and bringing the country into modern times?

2019-04-09 12:03:29 UTC  

The people didn’t ask for communism

2019-04-09 12:03:46 UTC  

It was enforced apon them

2019-04-09 12:04:32 UTC  

You really think that communism is forced onto people?

2019-04-09 12:04:34 UTC  

Lmao

2019-04-09 12:04:50 UTC  

Ahh yeah....

2019-04-09 12:04:56 UTC  

In Poland it was!

2019-04-09 12:05:07 UTC  

In Romania it was!

2019-04-09 12:05:11 UTC  

Considering that communism is first stateless, with no state oppression to force upon anything, classless, with no upper classes to force anything upon the working class

2019-04-09 12:05:19 UTC  

In Czechoslovakia it was

2019-04-09 12:05:43 UTC  

LMAO