Is normal?

Taking everybody’s rights away and giving them nonsense to gain power is just beneficial for the leader not to anyone else.

Maybe it keeps the country intact in some ways but it’s wrong

Depends. The Leader might care of it's followers.

It is not only corrupt who gain power.

True and honorable people gain power as well.

Then the leader wouldn’t give them all those lies and threaten them if they want to speak freely

True and honorable people gain power as well, then why do all those horrible things just to be in control?

Not true. It is normal to idealize for the masses. They resist critical thought. They like an ideal. And if the ideal is not The Great Leader then the ideal is someone else and trashy. One way or another masses idealize but in first case they also have a Leader that is true to them.

There is a difference in leadership.

@Машенька 🐻 Control might be means and not a goal.

Literally you got no freedom of speech whatsoever you can’t criticize the countries leadership regime otherwise you end up in a political prison.

Ok gain control, be their leader, but an actual leader that cares for his followers

It is violating individuals rights while defends the country and a nation.

Is a trade of

A leader should make his followers love and commit to their country from their heart. There is a difference between doing something because you’re forced to and doing something because you want to

There are many ways to do things. Many are right and many are wrong.

Only the leader knows what he should or should not

It's his role

It can start violence if people get rebellious enough.

Some people aren’t actually happy with their ideal

I'm against forcing it on everybody.

Just the ones who idealize

So do you think that people who don’t idealize it and are against it should speak up?

Let a thinker think and a believer believe.

Just speak up, no violence or anything

I think there are many situation. Sometimes it is good to shut down too much talk. Sometimes it is deadly.

It depends on the current goals, strategy and tactics

Explain shut down, by violence first or by giving them a chance then violate their rights?

I'm saying it can be done anyway or not done at all. I'm indifferent to it completely personally.

How about someone’s own appearance? I’m guessing people should have freedom in that

As long as it’s not offending someone else

I can't say they should but they can if they want. If they want to wear uniform is okay too.

If your society decides to uniform appearance is a freedom of your society to accomplish it.

How about equality? Do you think some people should have more rights than others or the rules should be applied on everyone

I thinks it makes it easier for a society to function if there are rules. But my stance is always neutral.

Well of course there should be rules and boundaries

Damn it’s 8:25 am here and I didn’t sleep yet, oh well

Application on everyone depends on the situation, goals and strategy with tactics. As everything else.

We should ask which goals do we have and which results we are to have.

@Машенька 🐻 where is 8.25?