etc

Obama insults were for support.

He said Mexicans were murderers and rapists as they do more crime on average and again for support.

he did impliment a policy of child seperation. whilst he didnt ban muslims as a group, he phrased it as that

trump is the one that called it a muslim ban

Citation for the muslim mother?

you realize he said that right?

that trump said it was to ban muslims

not lefttards

He simplified it.

Look at the banned countries.

It's countries that would hate America.

Also people from these countries with dual citizenship weren't affected.

Where's Saudi Arabia or Pakistan?

i know, you're preaching to the choir. I am saying that he CALLED it a Muslim ban, which is dangerous rhetoric - not what he ACTUALLY implemented.

He didn't intend to publicise it too much as that.

CNN helped call it that.

He only initially called it that though as it was meant to be simple and easy to understand to appeal to the mainstream right wing.

If he really wanted to stop Islam he'd have banned the Qataris buying out New York.

I don't think he does, but his rhetoric is dangerous to say things like Im going to ban Muslims etc.

Yes, he knows that.

It's just it is what people know him for.

If he didn't say such controversial things would anyone care about him?

He'd just be another face, he's not especially amazing.

He's not loved.

By making these large claims though he maintains some form of attention.

It's as the old saying goes, any publicity is good publicity.

This map shows it pretty well.

Oh yeah back to the main point. The thing is these people like the stormers etc are pretty fashy, in that they associate with Nazis, they attend demos irl. And they aren't some apolitical trolls, they're part of the reactionary culture; they donate to the patreons, gofundmes, etc of far right figures. Dailystormer helped dox leftist people and threaten them etc. Just because the style is trolling, doesn't mean they aren't actually behind it. Chapotraphouse is similar in that they're basically moronic trolls, but they're still far left commies and unironic about that

They don't know much about actual underground Neo-Nazis though.

How do you explain that?

They write prmotionary stuff about white nats in russia beating up gays and stoppni their demos etc.

pretty fucked up

Yes.

They are just trolls who love posing as Neo-Nazis.

Ever been on 4chan?

4Chan does this sort of thing a lot incase you don't know.

I dont accept that pol and others are mostly unironic. You say you know these peolpe personally right? And do you not having spoken to them, beleive they are sincere about the concepts of prefering nonwhites leave their countries, along with other "degenerate" elements?

I don't believe they are sincere.

There's little proof to show they are actual white supremacists.