Message from @Monolith

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2019-08-26 03:58:47 UTC  

I support free speech with limits as everyone who supports free speech does

2019-08-26 03:59:05 UTC  

what limits?

2019-08-26 03:59:32 UTC  

Elaborate.

2019-08-26 03:59:54 UTC  

do you believe in hate speech?

2019-08-26 04:00:52 UTC  

I believe everyone should have a healthy mental state which would benefit from hate speech laws, anti discrimination, etc.

2019-08-26 04:01:40 UTC  

ah so you don't

2019-08-26 04:01:56 UTC  
2019-08-26 04:01:59 UTC  

I don't believe your claim to high IQ then

2019-08-26 04:02:20 UTC  

Support for free speech is very strongly associated with IQ it's almost a linear relationship

2019-08-26 04:02:34 UTC  

As I said I support it

2019-08-26 04:02:39 UTC  

but you don't

2019-08-26 04:02:45 UTC  

Limits.

2019-08-26 04:02:51 UTC  

that isn't free speech

2019-08-26 04:03:04 UTC  

You cannot have free speech with no limits

2019-08-26 04:03:23 UTC  

hate speech isn't a violation of any US laws

2019-08-26 04:03:37 UTC  

Hitler used free speech to rise to power and abolish freedom of speech

2019-08-26 04:03:48 UTC  

you must limit it.

2019-08-26 04:04:15 UTC  

weimar didn't have free speech

2019-08-26 04:04:25 UTC  

Are you German?

2019-08-26 04:05:51 UTC  

Article 118 of the Weimar constitution

2019-08-26 04:06:54 UTC  

You spoke too quickly to fact check your own claim.

2019-08-26 04:11:37 UTC  

No I was just doing something else

2019-08-26 04:12:13 UTC  

You realize goebbels and streicher were prosecuted for anti semitic speech multiple times

2019-08-26 04:12:30 UTC  

and the nazi part was banned altogether for a while

2019-08-26 04:12:31 UTC  

Yes that was permitted

2019-08-26 04:13:47 UTC  

The Weimar Republic maintained a number of criminal provisions for hate crimes and anti-Semitic expression

2019-08-26 04:13:55 UTC  

ok?

2019-08-26 04:14:12 UTC  

Still free speech

2019-08-26 04:14:14 UTC  

So they had hate speech laws

2019-08-26 04:14:24 UTC  

Which you're proposing to prevent the nazis

2019-08-26 04:14:40 UTC  

At what point does it become not free speech

2019-08-26 04:15:09 UTC  

At what percentage of hate speech laws does it become not free speech

2019-08-26 04:15:36 UTC  

You cannot accurately define it so the distinction does not exist.

2019-08-26 04:16:22 UTC  

🤔

2019-08-26 04:16:45 UTC  

things that aren't calls to violence or illegal

2019-08-26 04:16:55 UTC  

actually pretty easy to define

2019-08-26 04:17:03 UTC  

They were made illegal

2019-08-26 04:17:38 UTC  

Also most hate speech is calls to violence in the first place

2019-08-26 04:17:49 UTC  

Or dogwhistling it

2019-08-26 04:18:29 UTC  

Then why were the laws invented when that would already be covered under existing laws

2019-08-26 04:18:47 UTC  

"things that aren't calls to violence or illegal"