call it whatever you like, you know what i mean

communism has only caused suffering

Why paradise on Earth was never achieved you ask? In Marx's time today's productivity and tech level could be considered as communism. France and Sweden far more socialist than Stalin's USSR. You are living in it man.

lol i live near france

its not communism

also france and sweden are shitholes

they are about to go bankrupt too

Do you have free continuous education in France?

do any of you people here have a background in economy ?

Do you have less than 12 hours workday?

@Firefly They are social democracies, not Socialist

russian name is right

They are social democrats that have more socialist country than USSR 100 years ago.

i guess you call todays world a capitalist mess, or a socialist paradise depending on the argument you want to make

and when it faisl, like it is in venezuala right now

its not real communism ?

It does not depend. In Marx time something we have today would be considered paradise.

So it was achieved.

so then what are you fighting for

if this is paradise

We are going further.

you live in US ?

move to sweden

see how you like it

what is the endgoal ?

I've been to most countries in Europe.

There is no end goal. We are materialist.

huh ?

you think materialism is good ?

I think it can defeat idealism in a war.

i really want to understand communists as i am writing a book about it

wow

do you believe in God ? any of you ? @everyone

we wuz nazis n sheit

do you believe in God? what about absolute truth ? or is truth subjective in your opinion ?

am just here to learn

Truth is dialectical and objective.

what do you mean by dialectical ?