Message from @Borzo

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2019-10-06 03:58:52 UTC  

Lmao

2019-10-06 03:59:07 UTC  

Hitler wanted a stateless, classless and moneyless society?

2019-10-06 03:59:42 UTC  

>Stateless
Most definitely not

>Classless
Class collaboration

>Moneyless
Definitely not

2019-10-06 04:00:15 UTC  

Yes, but he didn't pretend that was socialism

2019-10-06 04:00:29 UTC  

And those conditions were only to later establish socialism

2019-10-06 04:00:41 UTC  

Controlling capitalism to establish socialism

2019-10-06 04:00:50 UTC  

Hitler just pretended controlled capitalism is socialism lmao

2019-10-06 04:02:40 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308995540782284817/630253568015728640/image0.jpg

2019-10-06 04:03:48 UTC  

Ever notice how fascism props up whenever capitalism starts to decay?

2019-10-06 04:03:52 UTC  

Eg. Latin America

2019-10-06 04:04:08 UTC  

USA instituting fascist dictators such as Pinochet to protect capitalist interests

2019-10-06 04:04:22 UTC  

The USA was pro socialism?

2019-10-06 04:04:30 UTC  

They fucking killed Allende lmao

2019-10-06 04:04:41 UTC  

They tried to kill Castro over 600 times hahaha

2019-10-06 04:04:49 UTC  

But sure

2019-10-06 04:04:54 UTC  

The USA loves "socialism"

2019-10-06 04:05:29 UTC  

Or Great Britain and the USA releasing nazi POWs to fight the communists in Greece

2019-10-06 04:05:36 UTC  

Fascism is but a tool of capital

2019-10-06 04:06:05 UTC  

Why did they love German industrialists?

2019-10-06 04:06:20 UTC  

Why did hitler literally have a picture of Henry ford on his desk?

2019-10-06 04:06:43 UTC  

Because they were "great capitalists"

2019-10-06 04:07:16 UTC  

Late stage capitalism
Ruling class: International bourgeoisie

Fascism
Ruling class: National bourgeoisie

2019-10-06 04:07:39 UTC  

55 countries lmao

2019-10-06 04:07:41 UTC  

The bourgeoisie even funded hitler in his elections

2019-10-06 04:07:53 UTC  

most of the countries that declared war on germany didn't even fight the germans

2019-10-06 04:08:09 UTC  

Most of those countries were apart of the British empire ^

2019-10-06 04:08:18 UTC  

only 3 to 4 countries actually fought the germans

2019-10-06 04:08:38 UTC  

Communism has not been reached because the bourgeoisie have not totally been eradicated as a class, but nice strawman

2019-10-06 04:08:50 UTC  

"He consolidated many things, he had control, however as Lenin realized just as the communist party of China realized there had to be some private free practice for innovation and success"

2019-10-06 04:08:54 UTC  

this is not correct

2019-10-06 04:09:07 UTC  

"Socialist dictators"
Are you fucking kidding me hahahaha

2019-10-06 04:09:12 UTC  

Stalin was a dictator?

2019-10-06 04:09:18 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308995540782284817/630255237344788490/image0.jpg

2019-10-06 04:09:36 UTC  

capitalism was facilitated by lenin because he was developing productive forces in the USSR

2019-10-06 04:10:00 UTC  

A "dictator" that tried to resign on 4 seperate occasions, had frequent elections, only 1 vote in the central committee and no power over the presidium, but sure

2019-10-06 04:10:21 UTC  

Didn't America have secret police like hitler

2019-10-06 04:10:35 UTC  

Mass murdering political opponents is American as hell ahhahahaha

2019-10-06 04:10:45 UTC  

Ever heard of COINTELPRO?

2019-10-06 04:11:03 UTC  

the bolsheviks had seized control of a barely post-feudal backwater, you cannot go from an shitty agrarian feudal economy to an industrialized socialist country without transitioning to capitalism

2019-10-06 04:11:05 UTC  

Human nature adapts to material conditions

2019-10-06 04:11:28 UTC  

chairman mao zedong swt did the same in china with the great leap forward