I know, but he stood up for some Christian values but I also do agree that he is a fake Christian.

Many will see it different but that's how it is

@fightingwillock I would like to join the server please

Also I agree with Son Dank. I know Donald Trump more than likely has no faith in Jesus Christ. Someone doesn’t have to be a Christian for me to think they are qualified for a job. He implemented policies I liked as a Christian and that was and will be enough for me in the future.

I would prefer an actual devout Christian President but I’ll settle for someone willing to stand up for my freedom.

@Ulysses S Grant honestly after seeing what obama did to this country. Trump during campaign showed interest in christianity

You make SO much more sense to me based on what you said.
It is ironic indeed you come spouting these points
-Trump is not Godly
-insulted women
-say he did lust with no examples
-Throw in a weird opinion tangent
You sir, are no conservative, you as left leaning the the Tower of Piza first of all. Secondly, (for sake of argument I am going to shorten trump to T and Biden and Hilary to BH)
-T respects peoples beleifs, BH do not.
-T tells the truth, even if its insulting, BH will lie about everything and anything to your face
-T had several divorces yes, but so did poople in the bible, pastors and christians today, and BH have both been party to MUCH worst
-ultimately T may not be a perfect guy, but God picks imperfect people who stand for whats right. Moses was a killer, Abraham had slaves, concubines and killed people, David had a man killed to cover up his affair and even gentiles at some points.
If you are going to disregard anyone because they have sinned period, you are a super hypocritical and judgmental. Not to mention your basicly parroting mainstream news.

" Honestly Christians and Christianity should stay out of politics entirely, it will just serve to burn everyone." and as I have stated before YOU are the worst kind of christian ever. You beleive in sitting on the fence. You are LITERALLY the kind of person who would see Hitler invade poland and say "Well this is none of our bussiness, this does not concern us." And do exactly the thing that led him to power.

God did not say 'sit comfortably in your house and stay with christians and do whats right and it will all be fine.' He said to go out into the world. "The only thing Evil needs to to thrive, is for good men to do nothing."

God also never said "You know the state and church need to be Completely seperate."

if anything biblicly he wanted to be involved in every action the Isrealites had.

The founding fathers put that line in because they had seen how the Catholic church had been controling the government and said 'you know, the church should not dictate the laws, the people should.' Likewise they just came from the tyranical british empire and also agreed 'the government should not dictate the laws, the people should.'

Also Ulysses, I have yet to see you hold one fundamental conservative value that liberals do not also have. So I don't believe you are a conservative, so much as you claim to be one.

I agree with No Mercy. I, am a Southern Baptist, my dad is a Pastor of a church. We voted for T because he promised more things that HC would. We again voted for T because he promised more and better things than JB/KH wanted. Heck back in 2008 when I was way to young to even know politics, he told me the exact values that BO’B stood for. A president that light up the White House in “pride flag” colors. A man who put his feet on the desk facing Israel, which to an Israel, pointing the sole of your feet/shoes at someone = “I have power over you”.

Heck T put on some abortion policies, HC wanted the ability for women to wait up to 3 hours before labor to decide if the baby shall be aborted, and I heard JB and KH both got ride of those abortion policies that T put in place. Not to mention look at the “promises” JB and KH have made and broken because they lied through their teeth.

T might not be a godly man, but a Christian is supposed to stand against those that are evil. If that means picking the better of two evils, then we have to do that. The church itself has sat back from politics too long, and I don’t mean super mighty mega churches where they only care about the $$$. I’m talking about the good, less than 100 members churches where you feel the power and spirit of the lord in every singing and sermon. Just staying out of politics is what causes Gay marriage to be signed, the ‘abomination’ now we have a president who just made it so a guy who thinks he is a woman can walk right into the women’s bathroom. Heck JB fired a black guy, and hired a transgender white persona. And if you watched one of Tyler’s Vids. “Amen and Awomen” is trying to genderfy a Latin word.

If I know that I have a choice to vote in something that could either keep some bit of God’s grace on this, ill vote for that against the left anyday, because don’t forget they are the ones who took the Bible classes and 10 Commandments out of schools. And you know how bad it’s gotten... my last year of high school..3 years ago mind y’all. I was having a nice talk with 2 other Christians in the hallway between classes, and a literal Muslim/Islamic female went to the principles, and said we forced our religion in her by talking about the story of Adshak Me’Shake and Avidego (yes spelt wrong but it’s that story of the 3 men tossed into the fire and Jesus unbound them and that good story). Alright. We ended up getting suspended for a week over that, tried to sue the school but no lawyer would take the case. Anyways, when we came back, ALL classes had to stop what they was doing so she could get out her mat and pray towards the East... that’s right, I couldn’t talk about my religion...but got forced to sit quietly and lose class time because somone of a different religion was favored over me.

That’s...that’s the kinda deep...deeeeeeeeep things we are in.

When a religion can be offensive towards one, and then get shadowed and not be able to be offended by the one they “offended”

That's awful

Schools preach equality but when it comes down to reinforcing it, it's only for certain people

No they are like KH in that instance “nit equal opportunity, equal finishing”
Meaning.
Kid 1= bullies each day
Kid2 = bully who then physically beats him up one day.
Kid1 + 2 = suspended for “fighting”

I'm having a meeting with my tutor tomorrow because certain teachers made it so clear that christian and conservative values are unwelcome, that I was scared to go to class for a long time

Exactly

When I become a teacher I’ll be fired because if I know a student is being bullied, and after I told the Councils and the principles and they don’t do shit... and a “fight” happens...I’m not gonna let the poor one being billed be suspended

Yeah it's extremely frustrating when that stuff happens

Thats right, and remember, it is the people like Ol Ulysses here who are the ones who pretend to be a christian who say "It time to mend america. Its time to reconcile the parties after the divisive trump. we are called to be good people, so lay your guns and rights at the door and trust 100% that when I say this is what God wants us to do, that is not my opinion disguised religion."

Even the bible speaks about wolves coming among the sheep and false preachers coming to change your view.

We took God out of the government first. We got the military industrial complex and corruption.

It’s all because the left started doing this to “not offend” people and get more $$

We took God out of schools. We got shootings and bullies and people who say "why does this happen?"

We took God out of culture because its opressive. And we got socilally acceptable twerking, evil corporates and appathy towards everyone.

One Bill. I cannot think of what it was, tried to go through Congress like 6 times under President Trump, and it was going to force all Pastors to accept homosexuality into the church. My dad says “let them enter in ONLY to hear the word of God, don’t let them partake in signing, taking up the offering, Sunday schooling, or any position but of a visitor. Once you let one take position, a group can enter and make a run on the church and boom. You got voted out because you let to many people who partake in sin run a Chruch”

"Seperation of church and state!" They scream to pull God out of things and then "This is the right thing to do." when the government pushes laws on religeon.

Christians are seen as punching backs because they wont fight back or stand for anything because people gaslight them into being passivist. Jesus was NOT a passivist.

It’s honestly B.S.
When a Christian can get sued for “I’m not making a cake for two homosexual people” that’s B.S. he’s not Doric g his religion on them...their forcing their Sinful life on his Christian beliefs..

It’s B.S.

When a pastor preaches about homosexuality and can get sued, it’s B.S.
When a pastor who has married only those who according to him, His Bible, the word and qualifications of God to get married, but turn down a homosexual couple because they don’t meet all qualifications, and gets Sued and could lose his marriage license....it’s..B.S

"I am not going to make this cake, its a private company I am refusing service"
UNACCEPTABLE
"I am going to remove them from our platform, because this is a private company and I am refusing service."
ACCEPTABLE

It’s funny, sarcasm there, how a homosexual can deny a Christian service..but the moment a Christian does that to a Homo...”EEEEEEE NAZIIIII”

My sword is logic, and my shield is sarcasm.