Message from @Eliottttttt🇦🇶

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2021-02-09 01:32:27 UTC  

But, yes. He saw the plates.

2021-02-09 01:34:04 UTC  

Can I go be a productive person now? Jesus himself said that you need a job.

2021-02-09 01:34:17 UTC  

Go for it.

2021-02-09 01:34:19 UTC  

Go ahead

2021-02-09 01:34:52 UTC  

I need you to explain this to me


When Lehi left Jerusalem, according to the Book of Mormon, his group consisted of fewer than 20 people. Yet 19 years later the people had so prospered and multiplied in the Promised Land that they built a temple of which the “manner of construction was like unto the temple of Solomon: and the workmanship thereof was exceeding fine” (2. Ne. 5:16).
Looking at what the Bible says about the construction of Solomon’s temple, we find that it took 30,000 Israelites, 150,000 hewers of stone and carriers, 3,300 supervisors (I Kings 5:13-16) and about seven years to build it (See also I Kings 6).
And how many people could Lehi have had in his group after 19 years?
The book further tells that in less than 30 years after arriving on this continent, they had multiplied so rapidly that they even divided into two nations. Even the most rapid human reproduction could only have resulted in a few dozen in that brief time, and most of them still would be infants and children and about one-third older people.
Not only did they divide into two nations, but throughout the book, about every few years, they had devastating wars that killed thousands (i.e., Alma 28:2).
How did they build a temple like manner like Solomon and was able to split into two nations?

2021-02-09 01:36:46 UTC  

Where does it specify the number of people?

2021-02-09 01:37:17 UTC  

We know about the size of HIS family, there were already groups there before him.

2021-02-09 01:37:34 UTC  

And there were people with him when he left

2021-02-09 01:37:50 UTC  

But didn't he claimed the founder of Mormonism?

2021-02-09 01:38:17 UTC  

Lehi didn't

2021-02-09 01:38:36 UTC  

Where does Lehi specify the number of people?

2021-02-09 01:38:42 UTC  

I legit want to know

2021-02-09 01:39:20 UTC  

The plates of lehi are presumed lost in the 116 pages that were stolen

2021-02-09 01:40:39 UTC  

You know the Mormon book more than me but I did read somewhere it said 20 people left with him

2021-02-09 01:41:00 UTC  

Don't remember where exactly though

2021-02-09 01:44:19 UTC  

Question: is there any part of the BOM that is false?

2021-02-09 01:45:16 UTC  

Objectively, of course.

2021-02-09 01:45:25 UTC  

All of it according to some people

2021-02-09 01:46:01 UTC  

I see way too many holes in the Mormon doctrine and there too many unanswered questions.

2021-02-09 01:46:07 UTC  

Its because it doesn't say

2021-02-09 01:46:20 UTC  

Yes, but im asking objectively. Is there any single part of the BOM, no matter how small, that it states something wrong?

2021-02-09 01:46:44 UTC  

Nephi 1 or 2 something

2021-02-09 01:46:48 UTC  

I have a link to a website that addresses the scripture about the temple of Solomon that you are referring to.

2021-02-09 01:47:03 UTC  

It does i once thought Mormons was the way but when I got into it I left immediate it didn't feel right and none of there teaching made sense

2021-02-09 01:47:10 UTC  

You’re saying that they are wrong, correct?

2021-02-09 01:47:33 UTC  

The error was corrected in a footnote

2021-02-09 01:47:48 UTC  

What was the error?

2021-02-09 01:48:42 UTC  

It was almost the exact same as another little error in the bible, where it says that lord hardened the persons heart, Pharoh or Laban in this case

2021-02-09 01:48:57 UTC  

Oh.

2021-02-09 01:49:45 UTC  

So then here are my two cents: As apostles of Christ we understand that the Bible, our book of teaching, is living and active word of God. Being as such, it has to have no wrong teaching or saying in it. So then taking from that, if the BOM is supposedly an extension of the teachings of Jesus Bar-Jonah, then it must also be living and active, and therefore true. For God is Truth, and cannot exist in wrong.

2021-02-09 01:50:08 UTC  

Aye.

2021-02-09 01:50:45 UTC  

For me i asked this question to Mormons and they seemed to not be able to answer and many more questions and reason why I left the idea of being a Mormons
“If God was as man is, does that mean there was a God before Him?”“Then where did life start?“Who was the first God? How did He become a God?”

2021-02-09 01:50:55 UTC  

Yes, but if the BOM has even a minor wrong, can it still be God’s spoken Truth?

2021-02-09 01:51:09 UTC  

The bible also has the error

2021-02-09 01:51:16 UTC  

Which error?

2021-02-09 01:51:33 UTC  

Where it says that god had hardened the phaorhs heart

2021-02-09 01:51:39 UTC  

But actually did not

2021-02-09 01:51:46 UTC  

How did he not?

2021-02-09 01:52:30 UTC  

The Harden of heart is because of his jealousy of God and how powerful God was and because of God's power he hardened his heart

2021-02-09 01:53:01 UTC  

That what I think it means when God harderns someone's heart.

2021-02-09 01:53:13 UTC  

It was corrected or explained