Message from @Massive Ordnance Penetrator

Discord ID: 814599979146543142


2021-02-25 20:46:40 UTC  

No other source of safety should come, but Him

2021-02-25 20:47:05 UTC  

God could've saved Jesus from taking the burden of the cross, but that was God's plan, and He allowed it to happen.

2021-02-25 20:47:06 UTC  

Right, which is why God raised up Ehud.

2021-02-25 20:47:17 UTC  

What about you working to get a house and food is that not trusting in God to take care of you?

2021-02-25 20:47:34 UTC  

Because you are acting on your own will

2021-02-25 20:47:49 UTC  

If you work not, because you do not want to then you aren't going on the path of God are you?

2021-02-25 20:48:09 UTC  

That's acting on your own will

2021-02-25 20:48:18 UTC  

with your logic then people should not do anything and sit for food to arrive cuz they "trust" god

2021-02-25 20:48:19 UTC  

I think u mean Jesus willfully laid down his life. He God (trinity).

2021-02-25 20:48:37 UTC  

Jesus did it because it was God's plan

2021-02-25 20:48:44 UTC  

You are choosing instead of trusting in him to provide you food and shelter, instead to go and get it yourself.

2021-02-25 20:48:45 UTC  

God allowed that to happen

2021-02-25 20:48:45 UTC  

That's very pretentious of you to assume his motives.

2021-02-25 20:49:04 UTC  

If God told you not to work then don't work

2021-02-25 20:49:06 UTC  

simple as that

2021-02-25 20:49:07 UTC  

god does not control everything in the world if he did then sin would not be a thing

2021-02-25 20:49:09 UTC  

But, I assume God himself probably told you his motives.

2021-02-25 20:49:14 UTC  

cuz doesnt god want the best for everyone?

2021-02-25 20:49:27 UTC  

God does control everything in the world He offers us free choice however.

2021-02-25 20:49:28 UTC  

Humans have free will.

2021-02-25 20:49:29 UTC  

if ur saying that god does and controls everything then sin shouldnt be a possibility

2021-02-25 20:49:45 UTC  

and then exactly he offered the choice to fend for ourselves

2021-02-25 20:49:48 UTC  

Gods knows how everything will turn out as an omnipotent being.

2021-02-25 20:50:02 UTC  

He tells us to trust in Him or to trust in ourselves

2021-02-25 20:50:11 UTC  

Trusting in ourselves will end up in the worst situation.

2021-02-25 20:50:14 UTC  

that makes no sense

2021-02-25 20:50:21 UTC  

I think the only one here who trusts in himself is you.

2021-02-25 20:50:23 UTC  

one one side ur sayin trust him and let him do his work

2021-02-25 20:50:28 UTC  

and then ur sayin u must also do ur part

2021-02-25 20:50:34 UTC  

aight then ima do my part in defending my self

2021-02-25 20:50:41 UTC  

so yes im going to keep a gun

2021-02-25 20:50:51 UTC  

not trusting gun over god

2021-02-25 20:50:53 UTC  

im doing my part

2021-02-25 20:51:16 UTC  

I trust in God and his plan but I also know that he gives us the means to provide and protect ourselves.

2021-02-25 20:51:21 UTC  

I didn't say you couldn't have a gun; I said you must follow the will of God; and God's will is not for you to have something else to protect yourself; God's will could also be that you do not work so that you can do His work

2021-02-25 20:51:25 UTC  

It's all in His plan

2021-02-25 20:51:27 UTC  

There nothing wrong with depending on God. And as Christian we should. But God has given us knowledge

2021-02-25 20:51:46 UTC  

u said that by having a gun you are not trusting that god can protect u

2021-02-25 20:51:54 UTC  

Luke 22:36-38 says two swords (guns). 😉 😉

2021-02-25 20:52:02 UTC  

Yes, because God said that he will protect you.

2021-02-25 20:52:12 UTC  

Having a gun for self-defense*