Message from @ni co

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2021-02-21 13:24:29 UTC  

It was dumb to insist on a planned economy and the Soviet Union had fundamentally bad economic policies aside from the NEP years. Outside of "Rodina" and "great patriotic war" style war propaganda it had an anti national character.

2021-02-21 13:24:31 UTC  

stalin was also voting in favour of UN plan

2021-02-21 13:24:33 UTC  

to create israel

2021-02-21 13:24:46 UTC  

lmao what are you on

2021-02-21 13:24:50 UTC  

proooof?

2021-02-21 13:24:54 UTC  

NEP was political an economical failure

2021-02-21 13:25:03 UTC  

How

2021-02-21 13:25:08 UTC  

wrong. political maybe a failure, economically a success

2021-02-21 13:25:12 UTC  

Any statistic or something

2021-02-21 13:25:13 UTC  

it stagnated after economy catched up to 1913 level

2021-02-21 13:25:14 UTC  

stalin made economic miracle

2021-02-21 13:25:15 UTC  

read the data

2021-02-21 13:25:17 UTC  

no one ever made lamo

2021-02-21 13:25:21 UTC  

Show me the data

2021-02-21 13:25:24 UTC  

with planned economy

2021-02-21 13:25:25 UTC  

NEP made economy the same it was in 1913, then stagnated

2021-02-21 13:25:41 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/793519133177675800/813038743031775291/DUsmHSoX4AANkxN.png

2021-02-21 13:25:58 UTC  

I'd rather talk about fixing modern economies than redoing arguments from 100 years ago

2021-02-21 13:26:02 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/793519133177675800/813038827504533534/unknown.png

2021-02-21 13:26:05 UTC  

Data about the NEP

2021-02-21 13:26:10 UTC  

you see them there

2021-02-21 13:26:18 UTC  

you can see strong growth associated with postwar reconstruction

2021-02-21 13:26:20 UTC  

This correlates to political crises

2021-02-21 13:26:20 UTC  

Stalin supressed consumption and redirected the entire economy towards heavy industry
That's not a good economic policy if it leads to famines or wastes opportunities for growth in nonindustrial sectors

2021-02-21 13:26:27 UTC  

and when economy is rebuilt it doesn't grow anymore

2021-02-21 13:26:29 UTC  

Like the Civil War and unrest after the bolshevik victory

2021-02-21 13:26:37 UTC  

completely wrong

2021-02-21 13:26:37 UTC  

Light industry, services and agriculture can be important sources of revenue

2021-02-21 13:26:45 UTC  

it catched up with a west and boomed economy quicker than anyone ever managed

2021-02-21 13:26:48 UTC  

Any statistic on investment capital?

2021-02-21 13:26:49 UTC  

first of all, Stalin didn't redrict economy to heavy industry

2021-02-21 13:26:59 UTC  

Or how it affected it negatively

2021-02-21 13:26:59 UTC  

it was prioritised in gosplan activities

2021-02-21 13:27:10 UTC  

but light industry still expanded heavily

2021-02-21 13:27:16 UTC  

The 5 year plans overwhelmingly focused on heavy industry

2021-02-21 13:27:18 UTC  

yes

2021-02-21 13:27:21 UTC  

and that was a great policy

2021-02-21 13:27:28 UTC  

if it was not heavy industry

2021-02-21 13:27:30 UTC  

I did not say agriculture etc. was banned but neglected

2021-02-21 13:27:31 UTC  

Because the NEP was completely needed to get out of a feudal mode of production and gain capital

2021-02-21 13:27:31 UTC  

ussr would be dead