Message from @ni co

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2021-02-21 13:33:38 UTC  

RUDE

2021-02-21 13:33:39 UTC  

ok

2021-02-21 13:34:10 UTC  

dude 50 year olds can be cringe

2021-02-21 13:34:11 UTC  

anyone can

2021-02-21 13:34:26 UTC  

boomers are by definition cringe

2021-02-21 13:34:44 UTC  

but the fact is stalin created economic miracle, that wasn't solely his job, but he was the architect behind it, that's why western countries and even the eastern like Polish Kwiatkowski, Goering, Hitler, or Nobosuke Kishi in japan were fascinated

2021-02-21 13:34:49 UTC  

and instituted planning in their countries

2021-02-21 13:35:00 UTC  
2021-02-21 13:35:05 UTC  

goering's office of the four year plan was truly a huge success..

2021-02-21 13:35:10 UTC  

yes

2021-02-21 13:35:20 UTC  

in late 30s a lot of countries copied USSR economic policies

2021-02-21 13:35:27 UTC  

saved by stealing neighbour's gold reserves twice

2021-02-21 13:35:28 UTC  

even after war a lot of states copied it

2021-02-21 13:35:29 UTC  

state capitalism also was used in south korea

2021-02-21 13:35:30 UTC  

like france

2021-02-21 13:35:36 UTC  

france had planning office until late 90s

2021-02-21 13:35:43 UTC  

france is france

2021-02-21 13:35:44 UTC  

and communists had finiancial ministry for a long time

2021-02-21 13:35:48 UTC  

mercantilism is in their dna

2021-02-21 13:35:53 UTC  

that wasn't mercantilism

2021-02-21 13:35:58 UTC  

Miterrand wanted to even prelong this

2021-02-21 13:36:05 UTC  

It's not an economic miracle to focus growth on heavy industry by reducing consumption (consequences of that aside) and neglecting investment in other parts of the economy.

2021-02-21 13:36:07 UTC  

and passed a bill of major nationalisation of banks and industrial sites

2021-02-21 13:36:12 UTC  

wrong

2021-02-21 13:36:16 UTC  

USSR didn't reduce consumption

2021-02-21 13:36:20 UTC  

that's simply a fake news

2021-02-21 13:36:27 UTC  

Ah of course

2021-02-21 13:36:39 UTC  

so you're saying they always had low consumption because they were the bottom dregs

2021-02-21 13:36:41 UTC  

in fact consumption before the war expanded for like 1/4 and that's conservative estimate

2021-02-21 13:36:50 UTC  

When export grain rather than eat it, how does that not reduce consumption

2021-02-21 13:36:54 UTC  

not to mention noncountable changes

2021-02-21 13:36:58 UTC  

like housing and education

2021-02-21 13:37:09 UTC  

those aren't included in consumption and still show standard of living

2021-02-21 13:37:14 UTC  

exporting grain to buy silk to make parachutes and watching ukrainians die

2021-02-21 13:37:17 UTC  

genius economics

2021-02-21 13:37:22 UTC  

stalin cut the grain exports when crisis developed

2021-02-21 13:37:27 UTC  

/\

2021-02-21 13:37:31 UTC  

that's true

2021-02-21 13:37:32 UTC  

but

2021-02-21 13:37:44 UTC  

explain your point what you mean by "export rather than eat"

2021-02-21 13:37:58 UTC  

USSR was net exporter of grain because it was simply producing more it could consume for most of the time