Message from @Existance-is-a-lie
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judeobolshevik
Firsf off he didn't consider them as a separate ethnicity but what they are - ethnographic group. Also the state mechanisms in his proposal would've meant gradual incorporation on lines based on industrial and general production influence. The Macedonian state would've been more or less a compromise
Macedonian "State" it wouldn't have been the same apparatus as in the Yugoslavia that formed. He wanted it to be more like a soviet republic
@Existance-is-a-lie Russian power can not be avoided
Any formation of Slavic identity will naturally evolve from Russia
True but pan hyperborean Slavia would mean basically total control
Ya
is russia pushing pan-slavism to ukraine and belarus
Slava Russiyi
bruh
It doesn't necessarily since a lot of the underlying dynamics and culture are different
@Existance-is-a-lie it's not Russian fault all other Slavic countries are too weak
Russification of Slavs is inevitable step towards constricting Slavic identity in some distant future
Doesn't mean we should be under their almost exclusive hegemonic control
Oh? What's the alternative
There is none
Yugoslavia with all its faults was a pretty successful state
Besides for Serbs and Bulgarians it wouldn't be so bad at all
If you combine all Slavs but Russians you still can't match them
Without Russia you might as well start speaking German
There isn't a need (or I think even a desire) to want anything other than economic cooperation with the eastern slavs / Russians
Without them we will forever be within EU
Assumes we were top actors in these dynamics
Which isn't controlled by slavs
it isn't primarily controlled by any nationality
By the west it is
The Bulgarian liberation for example. Russia didn't invade the turks because they just loved us. They wanted to vasalize us (and did for some time)
Of course
You don't think I am aware of it?
But ask yourself, where would you be without them
Bulgarians started serious uprisings only when backed by Russians
Our material interests and conditions are different from Russias. Yugoslavia was again a successful state even with its flaws
No it wasn't
Yeah I know but I won't suck them off in modern times and in modern geopol
Well no future for us then
yugo
Yugo was trash
KINGDOM OF SERBIA!
Ya that's based
SERBIAN INTERCONTINENTAL EMPIRE!!!
Ok