Also first etap of complete slav unficiation should be unification of subgrups of slavs, so for example Czechs and Slovaks with Poles, Belarusians and Ukrainians (mostly) with Russians, south slavs under Serbs. It's simply not possible for Poles to accept Russian hegemony, although we could use our numbers and size to colonise/mix with other western slavs.

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No wonder

Also the difference being that the holodomor was not man made compared to the third reich

> Also first etap of complete slav unficiation should be unification of subgrups of slavs, so for example Czechs and Slovaks with Poles, Belarusians and Ukrainians (mostly) with Russians, south slavs under Serbs. It's simply not possible for Poles to accept Russian hegemony, although we could use our numbers and size to colonise/mix with other western slavs.
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I completely agree but you shouldn't say mostly, Ukranians and Belorussians are Russians

Total war where millions of people die when we can have instead good relations in trade and development? Or some phantasmagoric total economic control over western Europe

if you dont accept russian hegemony then you accept the german hegemony

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like u dont have the capacity to project your own influence to compete with both germans and russians

I always say, better Moscow than Berlin

Ukrainians and Belarusians are product of mixing between Polish and Ruthenian serfs, but their cultural values are one big mixture, heavily based on regional diffrences

nobody cares about regional differences

that's why saying "all ukrainians are russians" or the other way is simply stupid

Irrelevant to the point

Why should Russians give anything to you?

What Dimitrov wanted to create or even in the modern context. A vishegrad like entity that includes Romania Bulgaria Serbia north Macedonia and Greece would be highly advantageous to play both sides. EU and Russia

Ofc it won't be a global superpower and that's not the point I'm making

It's relevant, since Slavia at least in the beginning phase shall be more of federation than geopolitcal block headed by one power. It simply helps the stability.

In Russian empire census Ukrainians were called little Russians, very wholesome

Slavs have common identity, but not all slavs want to be Russian

as much as i'd like it to happen but no we won't outright annex all of eastern europe hoi4 style

This is a redditism and not far off from that boris guy on yt

@Existance-is-a-lie I don't want our enemies to exist at all, so we must be firmly anti-west and Russian vanguard against our enemies

idk why you make it an argument

ya fine it can be federation

I don't deny that geopolitical block is good, but such block must be firmly anti-west

I mean Slavia is itself imaginary concept, so don't name something is unrealistic in such discussion

How's that gonna happen. Send the millions of slavs to war or put them in factories where they'd be slaves to have an economic hegemony

Ideally it would be fascist pagan empire

> How's that gonna happen. Send the millions of slavs to war or put them in factories where they'd be slaves to have an economic hegemony
@Existance-is-a-lie
Nigga what, why would any firm siding in geopolitics lead to slavery

You can firmly be pro-Russian geopolitically without some slavery

"I don't want" our" enemies to exist at all.

That's purely idealistically speaking

How are you gonna achieve such super hegemony

I mean why are you Woland so focused on the Russian culture export? I mean, for sure it would be based if all slavs learned Russian not english as the second language, but you talk about complete cultural annexation and somehow destroying the identity. That is both imaginary, ineffective and simply unpossible in era of national states.

ideally that'd be the case but thats never gonna be a realistic possibility

Without either a war that'll lead to millions of deaths and destruction or slave labour and economic ultra hegemony

Ok ok let me explain what pragmatically we should work towards

Yeah that'll be much better than Slavia

Rome 2

Slavs within EU should form own block within EU that would destabilize Western political hegemony and allow greater Russian geopolitical power