Message from @Thomas Morrow
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Theyre the same thing
To put it simply, yes they are the same thing. Fascism and National Socialism were two ideologies used in Italy and Germany, those ideologies both have the same inner essence/soul but differ in some exterior features since Italy and Germany are two different nations/people's.
what we follow here on this forum is that same essence/soul that was behind National Socialism and Fascism. A lot of people get confused with this point because they are overly concerned with the outside appearance or features of Fascism or NS and associate themselves with that instead of pealing off the exterior ( ideology) and discovering the interior/essense ( the worldview).
We call our worldview Fascism but we could just as easily call it something else, a lot of people just refer to it as the truth. The important part is that both National Socialism and Fascism were ideologies that were used to make German and Italian society become more in harmony with nature/ the truths of the world. We here on Ironmarch also want our respective societies to be in perfect harmony with natural laws so we share the same worldview as the Fascists and Nazis of last century. The ideologies that we will use in the future will no doubt be different from NS and Italian Fascism, but the essense will be the same. Our goal(worldview) is the same but how we reach it (an ideology) will have to be different depending on the conditions at hand.
National socialism and fascism are not the same thing. Look at Italy compared to Germany in WWII for instance Mussolini thought Hitler's ideas on race were ridiculous, and rejected the idea of nationalism.Under fascism the state is everything. Under national socialism your race is at the heart of everything
Yes there were similarities (namely wishing to improve their countries)but that does Not make them the same thing
It's like saying cats and dogs are the same thing because they're both animals or saying blacks and whites are the same because they may look different doesn't mean they don't both have souls man. Even understanding their policies should prove what you're saying as wrong. No offense, sir
Basically one of the biggest differences is that a fascist government can be multicultural. A national socialist system cannot. Not to mention under fascism the people collected are meant to serve the state which is at the head of everything (understand the fasces)
Also look at the roman republic(which was fascist) it was not remotely ns, and fell apart as they became more multicultural. There's tons of material on this subject but this is one of my favorites.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/stopbadscience.wordpress.com/2009/07/16/difference-between-national-socialism-and-fascism/amp/
Your thinking of them as ideologies and not of representations of an eternal truth
That's not an argument
You're making these into what you want them to be instead of seeing them for what they actually are
Watch plox
I'm sorry
Fascism has nothing to do with race
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Just read the Doctrine of Fascism by Benito Mussolini
Everything else is basically made up
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Mussolini stated, "Fascism was born... out of a profound, perennial need of this our Aryan race".
That may be, but it's not part of Fascism generally.
Mussolini the creator of fascism declared it born out of aryan race
Your goal postinf
If fascism has nothing to do with race i want nothing to do with it
It actually wasn't born out of race
Systems which respect order in all forms are the only ones which are valuable
It may have been born out of the race, but that doesn't make it racial.
Mussolini actually adopted it as it was almost over
Order of spirit, order of state, order of race.
He just says Aryans need it, not that it's ABOUT Aryans
And traditionally fascism has nothing to do with race
Race is part of natural order