Message from @rilath
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Ragnarok is about the kali yuga, the fall of empires and the rebirth of ancestral values(the return of the gods)
And the oncoming of a goldenage through ancestral worship and emulation
As to worship your ancestors(the gods) you emulate them and become them
Anyone religious here? I'm assuming at least someone is. Were you raised religiously or did you find it on your own? What about your religion attracts you to it? Do you believe that religion should play a part in our new society or not? Why? I'd love to have conversations about religions with any of you, as currently I feel spiritually empty. Thanks guys.
@rilath Roman catholic
@rilath I was raised Catholic. The sense of community it creates between my people is what mainly attracts me to it. That is a hard question to answer; not sure, but for now I believe that anyone can believe in what they wish as long as it isn't self-degrading or societally-degrading.
I was feeling spiritually empty for a years too. But I have recently started doubting atheism. Even if no religion turns out to be right, at least we can look to it as something that binds communities. Also as cultural treasure chests. I have been looking into slavic paganism and it is showing me a lot of interesting things about my people. So religion can be helpful for that as well.
I was raised baptist for most my life, pagan now tbh
How do you feel about the current state of the Catholic church? I was raised Episcopalian though I became agnostic in high school. Though now I feel as though I may shift back into the church. Because you're right, there is a sense of community there that's hard to match through other facets of life. My wife is pretty agnostic too, though I feel like shed join the church if I did. Is it worth looking into Celtic paganism to get closer to my ancestral beliefs, in your mind? Thank you.
Yes take a look into paganism, i believe the values of the church dont fit well with nazism, infact all SS were taught paganism and occult, the nazis had planned to return germany back to germanic paganism aswell.
Even though hitler said many pro christianity things, thule society and elite SS had plans with thr nsdap to return germany to a blood religion(paganism)
Watch some thuleanperspectice or survivethejive on youtube for a little info on paganism and our ancestors, you cam google the plans to return nazi Germany to paganism, i dont got the source on mr
Agreed paganism can be a treasure trove of the culture of your ancestors. Adding the fact that paganism is more interesting and that I have a hard time accepting any religious docteine as absolute truth, I think paganism is something good to look into.
I think the Catholic church is corrupted to a point. The larger churches are just money hungry, always asking for donations. The smaller Polish ones I go to are much better. Less tolerant of all the bullshit the church is peddling becausw of the (((pope)))
I don't think because we currently have a pope that is ideologically different from us we should abandon our faith.
Though do you believe that in our new society that Catholicism is the religion that we should have? I can see the appeal of a nature based religion for our traditional ethnostate like our ancestors had. It makes sense to, though so does my Episcopal background. I feel both have such long standing meaning and tradition that make both Christianity and paganism good choices.
I've never met a pagen who isn't just a larper.
I'm in the same boat
It really just comes down to ones personality.
Reading through "Revolt Against the Modern World" is really opening my eyes to religions of the past and their significance
At the same time, if we want to attract our fellow white men to our community, a religion they can relate to might be a better option.
Try pagan imperialism - evola
I think tens of thousands of years with paganism and indo european religions > 1000 years of christianity (which is a foreign religion to our bloof anyways)
I mean its the same situation for islam in thr baltics for albanians and bosniaks
They have the religion of their ancestors 1000s of years, or the foreign religion that has taken hold past 600-700yrs
Which is derived from Judaism anyways, both islam and christianity
Like muslims recognzie christ as a great prophet, but not as son of god
Just my opinion
And on the larping subject, the pagan gods are not beings like christ, they are representations of nature and your ancestors
Worship of the pagan gods comes from emulating them (your ancestors) to become wotan(a wise ancestor)
In all subjects, strength, wisdom, glory and honour
I dont know if a god exists( in the way christ does)but i know nature does and the value of our ancestors in metaphysical properties that is in our race
To me the god would be nature
I dont see how that counters the point that most modern pagans are larpers, and a 1000 years is not a small amount of time. Under christianity, western civilization went from being insignificant to taking over the world, and at the end of the day Christians can actually get people to show up to church. It's not like you have to abandon your ancestors traditions either, a large portion of western christian traditions have been inherited from european paganism. Ultimately, If you can show me someone who's stopped being an alchoholic through paganism, then I'll take it seriously.
Mpst of the christain world aint even white
I dont drink due to emulating wotans strength
And im huge
:)
Havent had a drop since, alcohol only weakens