but there's something about the real thing

about handling the real structural timbers with your hands and manipualting them, and carving existence and memories from them

i agree its really cool i just never saw it done right and i never was in one to begin with...i always see small bathrooms, weird kitchens without enough counterspace and low ceilings ...fix that and youre good

cuz you're totally right, man... there are many easier simpler ways to build a house

i just dont see good floor plans

yeah I know what you mean

and there are many older homes that are timber frames, that have older standards of accommodation

you know what I mean?

yeah i feels you

like I live in Utah and there are houses out here built a 100 years ago people are still living in

the kitchens and rooms all feel so small

kind of like when my ancestors came to the US they were a good half foot shorter at least on average than i am

but back then people were just happy to have a warm place in the winter

Yeah I'm a tall guy... I need 8' walls at least

like a full bed might be nice for some people but i just dont fit comfortably

yeah

but if you were living back in the day, on the American Frontier, you're basically camping

and you'd be happy sleeping on pretty much ANY bed

its a paradox where big strong men want to build homes that smaller weaker ones design but they dont realize until its too late the house isnt suited for them

that's kind of what I mean... I like seeing how far we can go pairing things down to the bare essentials

yeah I'm pretty thorough. I don't think that'll happen to me

I have a pretty good lay man's overview of basic archtectural principles, and layout design. We'll just have to see

but it is something I want to get good at

I don't want to build junk, so I'll have to spend a few grand getting educated

i dont doubt that you do and its super easy to visualize or markout if you alreasy have the ability as an artist

yeah man, and I'm a sketchup pro

lol

I think if you plan the house out well at first, you won't have floorpsace issues, in spite of the thicker walls

well that was about logs construction the walls are an issue

timber frame has the same floor plan issues but you can make a larger home but you are bound by timber length etc

i also dont usually talk to people about these things so could you give me feedback ..orchid obviously thought i was being a dick

I think he was just worried you were going to pick a fight

it almost seemed like that at first

"ayo hol'up... STICK FRAMING IS THE SHIT!"

lol

yeah im like goddam it if this guy is going to spread a larp

but clearly that didn't happen

dude yeah a lot of the log enthusiasts are just larpers

because they're attracted to the image of it

it's like a video game to them

thats what im worried about i always try and reel people back in ...i know everyone ahs dreams