Messsage from SGL in Nick Fuentes Server #catholic-poasting-no-cultural-christians-allowed

SGL 2018-01-16 16:58:36  

I don't know - I'm not God.

shinjitsu 2018-01-16 16:58:43  

Lmao solid argument

shinjitsu 2018-01-16 16:58:47  

If you're autistic

SGL 2018-01-16 16:58:55  

Woah based ad hominem

shinjitsu 2018-01-16 16:59:14  

Happens when someone just used "uh I'm not God" as an actual argument

SGL 2018-01-16 16:59:32  

Really though, you can't believe that everyone is equal but also recognise that racial iq differences exist

SGL 2018-01-16 17:00:01  

Why is there a distinction? Probably due to culture and environment.

SGL 2018-01-16 17:00:19  

Was this part of God's plan? I can't fathom to know.

shinjitsu 2018-01-16 17:00:50  

Or I don't have a positive assertion to a God I should say

SGL 2018-01-16 17:01:01  

>doesn't believe in God
>posts in the Christian channel

SGL 2018-01-16 17:01:10  

Ten outta ten my dude

shinjitsu 2018-01-16 17:01:28  

>can't defend Calvinism going beyond 1 layer deep

shinjitsu 2018-01-16 17:02:12  

You realize any ideology that you differ with could use the exact same argument you have. I could argue for gods existence far better than you because I have read these religious texts

SGL 2018-01-16 17:02:34  

Ok fedora lad

shinjitsu 2018-01-16 17:02:50  

So no argument for Calvinism?

SGL 2018-01-16 17:03:18  

Okay lets look at Christian theology

shinjitsu 2018-01-16 17:03:22  


SGL 2018-01-16 17:03:44  

Does the Bible recognise the tribalistic nature of humanity?

SGL 2018-01-16 17:03:55  

I.e. that differences between groups are inherent

shinjitsu 2018-01-16 17:04:00  

Yeah of course

SGL 2018-01-16 17:04:06  


shinjitsu 2018-01-16 17:04:28  

You're making a conclusion that requires a jump from there that you're not justifying though

SGL 2018-01-16 17:04:39  

Did God make humans as agents of their own free will to some extent?

shinjitsu 2018-01-16 17:05:05  

Let's say yes completely given agency for the sake of the argument

Thomas 2018-01-16 17:05:26  

God's nature by it's very definition is essentially a mystery. All we have are the remaining texts that he left to us. That is what we know him by and what we can interpret his will as.

shinjitsu 2018-01-16 17:06:00  

Wait hold up I wanna hear his reasoning

SGL 2018-01-16 17:06:04  

Ok then. Is it the fault of God then that some humans chose to collectivise themselves into groups that are inferior than others?

Thomas 2018-01-16 17:06:22  

Sounds like Deism almost.

Thomas 2018-01-16 17:06:30  

The reasoning I mean.

shinjitsu 2018-01-16 17:06:30  

In Calvinism *yes*

SGL 2018-01-16 17:06:33  

Thomas is right though - I can't make objective assertions regarding the motives of God

shinjitsu 2018-01-16 17:06:42  

This is my problem with what you're saying

shinjitsu 2018-01-16 17:07:23  

In Calvinism it 100% is the fault of God that people do these things. Both collectivizing and being individually immoral

shinjitsu 2018-01-16 17:07:34  

It's why I don't like Calvinism

SGL 2018-01-16 17:08:10  

Then so be it. In your interpretation, Christians should be egalitarian and that is also quite clearly false based upon Christian theology

Thomas 2018-01-16 17:08:19  

God obviously gave humans a certain degree of agency while at the same time outlining some form or another a means of possible, or at least plausible predestination.

shinjitsu 2018-01-16 17:08:44  

No they shouldn't be because predestination is wrong, Calvinism is based on predestination and that is that

Thomas 2018-01-16 17:08:50  

In a theological sense, one cannot exist without the other.

shinjitsu 2018-01-16 17:08:53  

By extension it's wrong

shinjitsu 2018-01-16 17:09:04  

No you can't have both

Thomas 2018-01-16 17:10:17  

Contradictions can persist everywhere that our minds can't comprehend. We know of only three dimensions, but that does not exclusively mean we do not feel the effects of a fourth, or that one does not exist somewhere.