Message from @rilath
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Far enough to not be bothered but close enough to reach civilization when we need to
The goal is obviously self sufficiency, but it's a process
ill dump some pieces of land i already know there will be pushback from you board members
https://www.landwatch.com/Elko-County-Nevada-Land-for-sale/pid/25085714 remote land with road access and electricity
https://www.landwatch.com/Lander-County-Nevada-Land-for-sale/pid/25083023 remote land no electricity no major road
https://www.landwatch.com/Washoe-County-Nevada-Land-for-sale/pid/327264270 closest to a major city ..unsure about access or electricity
benefits of nevada is a longer growing season cheaper land and more solar
also no need to stockpile fuel for winter
Is there any financially feasible alternative to the power grid?
yeah solar isnt bad
Sounds expensive
but you need enough sun
solar is super cheap actually
if you are in a desert..in the PNW you need twice the panels for the same electricity and you also need to gather wood or fuel for winter
if you want to talk about expensive that would be running cable from the grid to the community and then paying per KWh...im not sure about electricity prices outside of my area but they are pretty high and solar is almost dead even with it for cost over lets say 10 years
being on solar would obviously also keep everyone in conservation mode , not like scarcity but people wouldnt leave the lights on unnecessarily as an easy example...basically it would make people more mindful of where their power comes from and more self sufficient
are we all holding down real jobs, or once we're financially stable will we alljust transition into maintaining the lland and community?
literal pitchfork army in my opinion
i think a town hall approach would also be good. Have the pitchfork army go and retreive the perp, and let the community decide their fate
depending on severity of the crime
well yeah i dont think crime would be that rampant i would also be ok with like a CIA approach where you have basically the towns leaders have a meeting with him and scare the shit out of him...someone that they would know cuold really mess their life up for them and their family
mhm
i don't think crime would be too much of a problem either, I mostly foresee something like theft
adultery would not be tolerated in any capacity in my eyes.
the last thing id want to do is parade criminals in front of the town...it could give them celebrity and it would hurt their reputations going forward ...like no one would trust them ever again and that would make them turn to crime more
agreed
The criminals deserve to have some degree of anonymity, you're saying?
depending on the crime, i would say.
yeah of course only the people who have to know and then they would keep tabs on them if they recidivized then the real punishments start
something small like theft, they'd need to punished, however, we don't want to ostracize the perp from the entire community
and also most crime is committed by teenage men...and those same people if focused for good could really be good workers
you just need to turn them into men
if you raise a kid for 18 years and he steals something worth lets say 100 bucks ...very serious crime but you dont throw the baby out with the bath water
if you label him as a criminal well then his wife would end up being the wife of a criminal, their kids would be the children of a criminal, down the line for 1 persons behavior years ago..the only reason you want an ethnostate is to be able to trust each other and there will be bumps, but you dont want to make them worse
It is doubtful that we will really have to worry about crime, but I think giving the criminal some degree of anonymity wouldn't be too harmful. It would give those participating in the public trial chance to speak without bias toward said criminal. I feel in the case with most crimes that might result in some sort of prison term, we could just resort to exile.
exile might not work since its a voluntary association anyway and you kick out someones kid they would probably leave and at best just resent you for splitting the family
and why do you need public trials...public trials should only exist for policy disagreements with the governing body. you dont really need a jury to find someone guilty .either you have enough evidence or you dont of the crime...anything else turns the judicial system into its own economy like we have now and leads people away from actual production