Message from @Scooter2000
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Yeah well again that's convenient rhetoric
Because that doesn't actually tell me anything
Relevant to the question
"Christians" are those who follow Christ -- the anointed one. Practically, your life should resemble the life of the Son of God.
What
Does
That
Entail
Cause I could give you an extremely clear answer
You don't seem capable of that
Living in accordance with the Ten Commandments.
Ok good.
I apologize if I'm not being clear. I assumed you knew the character of Christ already. And how he never sinned, and fulfilled the law.
If you don't know these things, then yes what I said earlier may have seemed like rhetoric. It's not.
I do know these things
This is how people who don't have answers speak - sanctimoniously
If there is a moral law which we know and man has no right to error then why would we enthrone as good, right and desirable policies which oppose that moral law?
Jesus kept the ten commandments. Those who follow Christ do as well.
"Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus."
Revelation 14:12
For the same reason God didn't smite Satan.
He rebuked Satan
he was cast from heaven
removed from the life of grace
He will smite Satan, but only after he has fulfilled his purpose: Exposing evil to the angels who never knew sin.
we know from sacred scripture that at the final judgement Satan will be punished and those who reject God will also be punished
See what I said above
And so justice is clearly a virtue
I agree
So why should we not follow that virtue
Because you can say that God allows evil to persist for his own providential ends (which I agree) but he also clearly desires the salvation of man and Christ warns those who would corrupt the faith of others
And he does that through his servants, who observe the sixth commandment.
What the government does should be based on the well being of the state. Letting crimes go unpunished is detrimental to the state. That is separate from what individual Christians should do.
How can what is good for individuals be bad for the State
Followers of Christ should leave the enforcement of laws to the earthly and heavenly governments, as Jesus did while he was on earth.
Off topic, but I wonder what church the Apostle Paul was talking about here? 🤔
"Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; **Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats**, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth."
Paul the Apostle, 1 Timothy 4:1-3
What denomination forbids its ecclesia, priests and nuns, from marrying? And that thing called Lent? Hmmm 🤔
"Followers of Christ should leave the enforcement of laws to the earthly and heavenly governments, as Jesus did while he was on earth"
What about Christians make up the civil authority?
"What denomination forbids its ecclesia, priests and nuns, from marrying? And that thing called Lent? Hmmm 🤔"
It was the Judaizers who kept the old temple laws
Judaizing was the first heresy and St. Paul devotes a lot of his writings toward combatting it
The Roman Catholic Church didn't exist in the Apostle Paul's time. So if you read the full verse, particularly when he says: "that in the **latter times** some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and **doctrines of devils**"
He did fight against Judaizers. However, he is speaking about practices after his day. Mainly the current practices of the Catholic Church.
How
In this letter to Timothy
Clearly not