its an effect to several other theories too

yes it is...

objects accelerating downwards is by definition a force this is trivial to prove

@lapizzle you attribute the effect only to gravity, it works with other theories. i want you to give evidence relating directly for gravity. why is it so hard? theres a force downwards to the center of earth, you should demonstrate that since you know it exists

Why are you still doing the same strawman

I did not say gravity, I did not say to the center of the earth

Every other theory is a replacement force everyone agrees that there is some force except apparently you

okay my bad, it wasn't gravity. ''objects accelerating downwards is by definition a force this is trivial to prove'' you got evidence?

yes F=ma is the definition of force

All of these theories you mention also say there is a force

So why do you not just concede that there is a force so we can move on

thats not evidence that there's a force pulling downwards. its only an equation

the evidence is that mass accelerates downwards

hence why it is trivial to prove

it doesn't give a vector of force lmao

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yes it does acceleration is a vector

how is an equation evidence to your hypothesis that there's a force pulling downward?

i could pull up an aether equation and say the aether exists

because there is one by definition so i cited the definition

''because there is one by definition so i cited the definition'' is not evidence. jesus fuck can you google evidence pleaase

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the evidence is any object accelerating downwards

you're making a presupposition that they already move downwards when it can be anything

it could be any force

im not presupposing anything about what the force is

but there is by definition a force

''accelerating downwards''

are you wasting my time intentionally?

no it seems you are, you are literally avoiding the question by begging the question

'' it just exists ''

it clearly exists

force is accelerating mass

objects with mass accelerate downwards

that is literally the only evidence possible for a force

it can be anything, i want you to demonstrate that its specifically downwards

Sorry to interrupt but what is this debate about? If gravity exists or not?

no

it is about if a force exists or not

Ooooo okay proceed

im about to peace out though