Message from @Sassy Undeniably

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2019-11-24 03:58:55 UTC  

Even math has 'conjectures' which are basically unproved theorems suspected to be true

2019-11-24 03:59:27 UTC  

I mean 'unproved theorems' in the sense that all scientific theories are unproved

2019-11-24 03:59:41 UTC  

Because they cant be proved in the same sense as a mathematical theorem

2019-11-24 04:00:58 UTC  

The only theory I know exist exist because little men can't handle facts that they don't know everything and make up bs when they have no proof but their corruptible minds. Math is an actuality that is made to count and has the factor of infinity so nothing theoretical about that at all. Lots of so called science is not science at all but just theory that can't be proven that is why they are just that theorys.

2019-11-24 04:01:41 UTC  

Math isnt only counting lol

2019-11-24 04:02:41 UTC  

Oh yes it is and it is used to repeat a created outcome such as a table or formula for repeating things. At it's core it is a calculation used to get a repeatable outcome

2019-11-24 04:02:58 UTC  

Can you prove to me by experiment that there are infinitely many numbers

2019-11-24 04:03:19 UTC  

You cannot prove this by counting lol

2019-11-24 04:06:47 UTC  

I don't need to prove that to you when it is known by you. Can you count every grain of sand or the hairs on your head or all the gallons of water or molecules in this realm? No so you would have to concede to infinity being a determinable number you can prove because a you won't live long enough to count it all your self or b you already know that this is the case so no need of proof of something that is self evident. Math is given and improper weight to it.

2019-11-24 04:07:02 UTC  

So it seems math isnt only counting

2019-11-24 04:07:03 UTC  

Lol

2019-11-24 04:07:41 UTC  

yes it is just counting

2019-11-24 04:07:54 UTC  

I mean that is a very elementary understanding of math

2019-11-24 04:08:01 UTC  

Very very so

2019-11-24 04:08:12 UTC  

math is made up to count known tangible and intangible objects.

2019-11-24 04:08:15 UTC  

Even the ancient greeks didnt just call math counting

2019-11-24 04:08:21 UTC  

They would probably call it geometry

2019-11-24 04:08:34 UTC  

that was all the rage those days

2019-11-24 04:08:47 UTC  

What is elementary is that others convoluted it and make it their god. Not me.

2019-11-24 04:08:58 UTC  

Who cares what they called it

2019-11-24 04:09:01 UTC  

Not me

2019-11-24 04:09:07 UTC  

Really?

2019-11-24 04:09:11 UTC  

Who cares what the rage was

2019-11-24 04:09:14 UTC  

Not me

2019-11-24 04:09:17 UTC  

It is about what is

2019-11-24 04:09:27 UTC  

It has evolved

2019-11-24 04:09:35 UTC  

Contemporary mathematics is far more beautiful and far reaching than older views of it

2019-11-24 04:11:38 UTC  

Its more of a game of logic than numbers lol

2019-11-24 04:11:55 UTC  

you prove there are infinite numbers with logic

2019-11-24 04:11:57 UTC  

not with counting

2019-11-24 04:12:23 UTC  

I fail to see the beauty in it as a tool. It is a handclap nowadays. I see it as a tool that is given more credit and weight then the actual being that created it. Just like spoken language. Being able to communicate telepathically is beauty to me. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder I might add.

2019-11-24 04:13:48 UTC  

alright

2019-11-24 04:15:24 UTC  

math is a tool used to express that which comes out of the mind to become more then a thought but. I don't need math to do anything accept show another how to manipulate terra into other tools. But I do not need it to live.

2019-11-24 04:15:59 UTC  

I think math is more a set of axioms from which all the true facts are derivable from the laws of logic only. The true facts are true by the nature of logic even if we dont realize they are true yet

2019-11-24 04:16:17 UTC  

As soon as we set the axioms though; what follows is necessary by logic

2019-11-24 04:16:54 UTC  

The fact most of the results are usable as tools is coincidence

2019-11-24 04:17:03 UTC  

And may indicate a fundamental logic to the laws of nature

2019-11-24 04:18:56 UTC  

Nah math is something we use to describe terra that we manipulate into other objects. To much weight it given to it. For example you say 1+1=2 but to me it equals 44 and so forth. That is how you reach a new level of understanding when it comes to math. It is a tool to be manipulated just like any other.

2019-11-24 04:19:14 UTC  

We call two the Successor of 1. It is defined as 1+1

2019-11-24 04:19:22 UTC  

Our disagreement is an issue of definition

2019-11-24 04:19:32 UTC  

If you agreed with my definition you'd have to call 1+1 = 2