my dirty desire is the audi q7 v12 diesel

but those things held value

I don't really like trucks and suvs but I have affection for "stupid" vehicles

the 2009?

no

they made it up til like 2009 i think

it was the only road vehicle to use the v12 tdi

which was derived from their diesel race stuff

cool

at one point they were gonna put it in the r8

but they decided demand wasnt there for a diesel supercar

which is probably true

people don't buy supercars to tow boats

lol

hmm

srt10 has less towing capacity

aww

no 4wd

well yeah the audi q7 v12 has insane torque

I meant than the suburban

oh lol

weird

@LOGiK Sure it was a v12, and not a v10? The Tourareg had the v10 TDI

probably gotta do with gearing

@Fitzydog yeah, it's a v12

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F312641715056

Huh, weird. You'd think they would just put the same engine in both

the v10 is a great engine though

it's got gear driven cams

👌

I've heard it's expensive to fix if it does break

probably, most vw/audi stuff is

I'll stick with a 12v <:shap:497652686603288576>

the reason I don't have a phaeton is the maintenance costs

phaetons are ridiculously cheap used though

If you can't afford the maintenance, you can't afford the car

honestly I kinda want one of the lotus 430s

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F223333382644

Wow, didn't know that was a thing

Yall euros have really niche models

I think ours came with one gas engine choice, and MAYBE a 4motion package that wasn't common