also @brownin I havent read all these, but if you were interested in figuring out if studies prove transitioning has a positive effect here's a collection of them https://whatweknow.inequality.cornell.edu/topics/lgbt-equality/%20what-does-the-scholarly-research-say-about-the-well-being-of-transgender-people%20/

thanks for the pdf btw

are they controlled clinical studies or correlative surveys

@Sock My entire point was that it was only one person.

It was successful, with one person.

And then it was defunded and abandoned

PJW said in a video that after transitioning they’re still just as likely to commit suicide so must be true 😅

pharma companies probably have an interest in permanent estrogen replacement therapy bc if they cure the condition it'd be a once off thing

just saying

they love incurable, permanent conditions

Mental health drugs are a billion dollar business

Why cure it for good when you can make billions

and the only good one is booze

Anyways, can anyone give me a reason why gender is a golden cow, but any other form of dysphoria or insanity isn't?

relevant desu

>Premarin was the third most-prescribed drug in the United States
oy vey who will buy all our estrogen pills now

oh i know!

traps

@Patty Can you tell me why gender is the golden cow?

i think i just put one forward @Fitzydog

No, I'm asking from a societal standpoint @Tero

@Fitzydog I'm writing a reply to you posting the study, there is a lot to reply to, I read the study, supporting and refuting studies and on the medication itself

Why specifically gender?

Why not people who believe they're Jesus?

hmm pimozide?

isn't that an antipsychotic....

curious

Is it?

idk

it is

I'm not a chemist lol

just reading the wiki, apparently it was usually used for treating delusional parasitosis
and is apparently quite as effective in treating schizophrenia patients as other antipsychotics

quite funny that it would work on trans too

@Fitzydog I read the study, read it's supporting studies, and about Pimozide itself as I'd never heard of this study.

First, the validity of the study. The study has a sample size of one and has not been repeated, so there is no other supporting evidence.

The patient when on the medication slept for the majority of the day, so naturally the severe lethargy decreased the symptoms present, as the patient's decrease in drive prevented any symptoms to be present, the actions of crossdressing and feeling the need to relieve dysphoria. That does not show any evidence of the symptoms no longer being present, just that the drive to do anything was not, so symptoms could not be verified. The other extraneous factors of the patient having a learning disability also increases the difficulty of verifying any conclusion from the study.

The likelyhood that Pimozide has not been reported to treat gender dysphoria is multiple factors. it is the strongest typical antipsychotic, and it's use was highly experimental. It is a last resort drug and the strongest in it's class, also highly dangerous in moderate doses. Side effects such as permanently decreased motor function and brain damage are possible.

So overall, not a valid conclusion for treatment of the root cause of the patient's gender dysphoria.

It is a thing that may possibly be looked in to, but highly unlikely as the case itself is highly suspect and flawed in multiple ways, not concluding anything

Okay. Is this evidence that there is no medical treatment and that surgery is our best option?

My point WAS that it had a sample size of one btw @Patty

We don't know if there is alternative medical treatment to treating the symptoms of gender dysphoria

`Side effects such as permanently decreased motor function and brain damage are possible.`
severe and unusual side effects are endemic to antipsychotic medications btw

"However, in view of the fact that his concentration appeared impaired and his inappropriate aggressive behaviour also responded to the medication, the possibility that he was suffering from schizophrenia, which like monosymptomatic delusions is also modified by pimozide, cannot be ruled out. Moreover, a pseudotranssexual picture in schizophrenia is not uncommon."

^

ty

I didn't want to write everything out