Like that'd be awesome if it works

That'd be fucking fantastic

Because I literally don't believe that you're giving me real evidence.

I need case studies. Which don't exist.

I can make up stories about imaginary friends in order to win debates as well

You really want me to send pictures of them? Lol, I'd not make up shit to change anyone's mind, so petty

So are you agnostic on wether transitioning helps, or do you have case studies that prove they dont?

I've seen plenty of studies, but I'm on a phone and don't want to go track then down

The negligible suicide rate one is good

is it a negligible increase or negligible decrease?

Also, we're operating under different premises about the definition of 'help'

I mean, we could eliminate suicide by putting everyone into padded rooms, watched over by robots that keep us alive indefinitely, but is that really 'helping'?

Just a hyperbolic example

That would require us forcing someone into that situation

trans people want to go through transition

The suicide problem is nowhere near as bad as publicised.

Drops to as low as 4% with one supporting parent

Yeah, and transabled people want to chop off their legs @Sock

And theres a measurable negative impact of losing your legs

.....

Should a medical professional be assisting in that?

what if transabled people who cut off their legs kill themselves less

no

I understand your discomfort with the methods of treatment. I totally do

No, I don't think you do.

I don't agree with the premise.

I don't believe in transgenderism

@Sock what if transabled people are less likely to kill themselves, if you cut off their leg/s

I myself have qualms with them, I am being treated with something in it's infancy with not a lot of historical evidence

surely this would outdo the harm of not having legs, no?

But I have no other treatment options

I do not believe that transgenders have the 'wrong gender brain'

Agreed

A silly notion

Which means it can be fixed with medication and therapy

Wtf is transabled? 🙈

trannies are people who haven't woken up to reality yet

Yes

And brainwashed

What medication and what therapy?

@brownin someone who thinks their body parts don't belong to them, that they shouldn't have them

I believe the only way to show people reality is to beat it into them

@Patty Idk, let's try looking for one!!

Oh wait, we stopped in the 90s with that one I showed you. No one else has tried since then.

Raaaaaaaah