no

you have to randomly pick people to get treatment

otherwise you just have a biased sample

The fact that it has co-morbidity with a number of other issues, issues that are not corrected by surgical intervention, is kinda a clue.

biased sample is a large anecdote, not data

Thanks all for the discussion, given me things to think about

I'll just leave this here;

https://thefederalist.com/2018/09/06/transgender-new-anorexia/

oy
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A rather large difference being that unlike HRT or gender reassignment surgery one can recover from Anorexia.

plus there is no social movement devoted to telling anorexics they really are fat

This is not to say I do not think you have the right to do whatever the fuck you want with your body. If you want to invest in any sort of cosmetic surgery or drug use that is your right. The medical endorsement of it is what I object to.

`Parents have described clusters of gender dysphoria outbreaks occurring in pre-existing friend groups with multiple or even all members of a friend group becoming gender dysphoric and transgender-identified in a pattern that seems statistically unlikely based on previous research. Parents describe a process of immersion in social media, such as ‘binge-watching’ Youtube transition videos and excessive use of Tumblr, immediately preceding their child becoming gender dysphoric.`
>excessive use of Tumblr
i knew it, tumblr is making the kids queer

I'll just leave this here:
`The study itself is not actually about “gender dysphoria” as it has previously been defined in the scientific literature. Rather, it is about the newer phenomenon of “rapid-onset gender dysphoria” (ROGD). Prior to about ten years ago, cases of gender dysphoria typically involved a long history of a child rejecting identification with his or her biological sex, going back before puberty.`

Important distinction

What's the real difference?

Read maybe?
`cases of gender dysphoria typically involved a long history of a child rejecting identification with his or her biological sex, going back before puberty.`

presumably that non trans-trenders aren't doing it to just fit in with their friends

(fucking zoomers making me learn the phrase "trans trenders" what is wrong with them smdh)

What friends? <:thisisfine:378719407981199363>

aww

its okay you've got a home here

With the fellow degenerates?

exactly

Yet even in those cases, untreated most children who experience dysphoria grow out of it and become normal homosexual adults.

Those that are attracted to the "same" sex only or are bi?

>normal
>homosexual adults
<:Deus_Think:505447701589000192>

Yeah homosexuality is fairly normal and consistent in human behavior. **There** we do have solid data. While not entirely innate the frequency is at a level over a long enough timeline to warrant that.

mm

i read an article by the bbc once a while ago actually about homos, and they said there is one other species which some of the males are exclusively attracted to other males even when ample female mates are available, and that is the domestic sheep

and the prevalence in said domestic sheep is about 10% (of the males)

Oh yeah we are pretty strange in that aspect. I mean most primates engage in homosexual behavior but we are the only species where individuals do so exclusively. Like when chomps bugger each other it's a dominance display not a sexual preference. Trivers did some really interesting work on this.

yeah or apparently some animals do it for practice

a dominance display can be a sexual preference too

thats not an argument just a comment sorry

also "doing it for practice"

we all know you're gay jannet

It's a specifically different behavior. Like a chimp that mounts another male as a dominance display will otherwise behave in a heterosexual manner. Our species is weird in that individuals will continue to engage in that behavior exclusive to reproductive sexual expression. Other primates do not do this. Even non-primates like those "lesbian" birds? They cheat with male birds.

That's how they reproduce.

This is, on the whole, not the strangest thing about humans. Like running is really really unusual....

other animals run tho

No, they really don't. Running is different than galloping.