Message from @Sock

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2019-04-24 00:59:55 UTC  

This gets kinda weird though because there is more genetic variation between populations of chimps on the same landmass than there is among humans on the planet. Genetic expression is some weird shit my dude.

2019-04-24 01:00:37 UTC  

right

2019-04-24 01:00:56 UTC  

when you said common ancestor i assumed you meant most recent human from whom all living people are descended

2019-04-24 01:01:02 UTC  

which was definitely not 5m y.a.

2019-04-24 01:02:37 UTC  

One theory is that we had a mass die-off event in the late paleolithic that created a sort of genetic choke point and that would explain the lack of variation. But no for human ancestors we've got aa decent gauge of time and place using MtDNA. Because it is non-recombinant we don't have to estimate cross-breeding.

2019-04-24 01:03:57 UTC  

Spermatazoa are too small to contain Mitochondria so it is strictly maternal. That makes it really convenient to track descent because we can ignore other factors.

2019-04-24 01:07:08 UTC  

Mumble rap should actually be illegal.

2019-04-24 01:08:49 UTC  

For more info on the die off check out joe rogans podcasts with graham hancock

2019-04-24 01:08:56 UTC  

they just did one but there are a couple others

2019-04-24 01:09:41 UTC  

No people have an innalable right to make horrible music. And I have an insliable right to look down on them for their poor taste.

2019-04-24 01:12:29 UTC  

I don't know Hancock in particular but it is a fairly well accepted theory in the literature. It's also theorized that under such a die-off event the Hamilton inequality would be maximized again giving an evolutionary cause for our unusual prosocial behavior. We cannot **prove** this but it has some value as a model.

2019-04-24 01:14:43 UTC  

ohh sorry my bad

2019-04-24 01:14:44 UTC  

But it's not music.

2019-04-24 01:15:05 UTC  

i wasnt reading carefully

2019-04-24 01:15:19 UTC  

It's audible poison.

2019-04-24 01:15:50 UTC  

graham hancock is the dude who's proposing some cataclysm that effected whatever civilizations might have existed 12,800 years ago

2019-04-24 01:16:06 UTC  

a much less accepted idea

2019-04-24 01:16:24 UTC  

and unrelated to what you guys were talking about because its way later

2019-04-24 01:16:26 UTC  

@Sock

I didn't say anything was particularly bad. I think Rogan is a valuable outlet I just do not know that specific individual.

2019-04-24 01:17:19 UTC  

oh no im not accusing you of anything, i made a mistake

2019-04-24 01:18:37 UTC  

wait, nvm we might be talking about the same thing

2019-04-24 01:18:43 UTC  

i just dont know my eras very well

2019-04-24 01:19:27 UTC  

12800 would have been late paleolithic or upper Halocene so well within the timeline. It's a bit early though because our species had already dispersed by that point. So (without knowing all of Hancock's ideas) I think he might be going too short term for the event to have merit.

2019-04-24 01:23:36 UTC  

There's some speculative climatology in this too. Like the central African biome was much more temperate back then. It is entirely possible that we left that climate because it became more hostile over the course of the Holocene.

2019-04-24 01:24:33 UTC  

where's our American Canuck lover?

2019-04-24 01:24:40 UTC  

honk honk bitches

2019-04-24 01:26:04 UTC  

Never turn your back on the shifty-eyed Canuck. 1812 NEVER FORGET!

2019-04-24 01:26:21 UTC  

👀

2019-04-24 01:26:40 UTC  

It's a shame KingCanuck left for Athens ages ago

2019-04-24 01:27:41 UTC  

The wildlings North of The Wall do not know civilization nor decency.

2019-04-24 01:28:10 UTC  

🦊

2019-04-24 01:31:03 UTC  

cool nazi coin, canada

2019-04-24 01:31:56 UTC  

🤦 so embarassing

2019-04-24 01:35:22 UTC  

There are only two species. Humans, and Canadians.

2019-04-24 01:45:35 UTC  

<:thronk:441701565607444482>

2019-04-24 01:45:57 UTC  

Wtf is a coin doing with colors on it?

2019-04-24 01:49:23 UTC  

gay

2019-04-24 01:49:31 UTC  

aka canadian

2019-04-24 01:53:19 UTC  

Like how is that shit gonna stay on there and how much does it cost to produce?