Message from @EnderOctanus

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2019-05-13 12:39:02 UTC  

@Tero No they don't want them to integrate.

2019-05-13 12:39:21 UTC  

what why not

2019-05-13 12:39:47 UTC  

Because they need to culturally isolate people to keep them an 'other'.

2019-05-13 12:40:08 UTC  

If you integrate you stop seeing yourself as different.

2019-05-13 12:40:20 UTC  

apparently our muslims used to integrate better

2019-05-13 12:40:28 UTC  

Thus your identity cannot be pitted against the locals

2019-05-13 12:40:39 UTC  

but now due to politics, and funding from the middle east, there's so much propaganda being pumped into their mosques and houses via the internet, they're becoming less and less integrated each generation

2019-05-13 12:40:39 UTC  

not entirely true, like the scottish are arguably integrated but still different

2019-05-13 12:41:04 UTC  

They share British culture don't they? Just not English.

2019-05-13 12:41:11 UTC  

or perhaps it's because their numbers are getting sufficiently large that they don't have to integrate

2019-05-13 12:41:30 UTC  

They aren't the same but have the necessary overlap.

2019-05-13 12:41:39 UTC  

you get whole streets and sections of towns where they all walk around in their islamic robes and all the girls and women wear full-on burqas

2019-05-13 12:42:10 UTC  

even children

2019-05-13 12:42:19 UTC  

My understanding is that those are relatively new parts of Islamic culture.

2019-05-13 12:42:20 UTC  

@EnderOctanus ye, so we'll just get british muslims

2019-05-13 12:42:41 UTC  

yup, but it's almost like they're doing it to... push back against british culture

2019-05-13 12:42:41 UTC  

ones who go and have tea after doing acid attacks

2019-05-13 12:42:49 UTC  

to make a point, "we're different and we're not fucking changing"

2019-05-13 12:42:49 UTC  

👌

2019-05-13 12:43:18 UTC  

there's enough of them now that there's no requirement or need for them to integrate

2019-05-13 12:43:22 UTC  

Oh you're both UK? I was talking about Hispanic folks in my examples.

2019-05-13 12:43:30 UTC  

no actually

2019-05-13 12:43:32 UTC  

and we're only at about 6% muslim in the UK

2019-05-13 12:43:34 UTC  

i'm in the UK, yeah.

2019-05-13 12:43:35 UTC  

australia tho, which is pretty close right

2019-05-13 12:43:41 UTC  

in a way, I don't blame them for not wanting to change and wanting to maintain their ways. The alternative around them is not very compelling.

2019-05-13 12:43:52 UTC  

True

2019-05-13 12:44:02 UTC  

of course

2019-05-13 12:44:06 UTC  

That's a damn good point actually.

2019-05-13 12:44:11 UTC  

but it's the political decisions and scale that makes it problematic

2019-05-13 12:44:24 UTC  

and the destruction it has on culture and tradition

2019-05-13 12:44:50 UTC  

help these foreign countries through trade and good relations, rather than stealing their youth

2019-05-13 12:44:57 UTC  

In the US, more and more Muslims avoid settling in cities.

2019-05-13 12:45:04 UTC  

leave them with their talents so that they can improve themselves

2019-05-13 12:45:19 UTC  

i think a big problem will be that unlike say the scotts, integrating a lot of muslims into british culture is going to be pretty hard bc they're totally different

2019-05-13 12:45:20 UTC  

@EnderOctanus why? so they can be in a majority in their own area?

2019-05-13 12:45:52 UTC  

No, to avoid gay people. Literally the reason given in one interview I saw a while back.

2019-05-13 12:45:57 UTC  

ah

2019-05-13 12:47:13 UTC  

kek. one of those old songs in that vid starts, "he was a lad in his 20's. she was a girl in her teens" that would not go down well today

2019-05-13 12:49:10 UTC  

"be a good soldier while your daddy's away. take orders from your mum and learn to obey"

2019-05-13 12:49:12 UTC  

these are good messages!\