@Capitán Alatriste but if the host country cant employ all of it's own citizens already, then they steal employment from them

and jobs grow on the job tree

@Capitán Alatriste they do if you get into logging<:pepe_smug:560207654207750154>

I mean, they kind of do if you don't live under communism

Hmm dude you just solved the crisis

Just work

You hear that FDR? People just had to work!

@Capitán Alatriste but if your country cant even employ all of it's own citizens. How does importing labor help them?

FDR was a fascist

fuck the crash, and there being no jobs

A stain on america

FDR fucked America

@Goblin_Slayer_Floki Typically people don't emigrate to countries where there is low employment...

The war did more for the recovery than the ND did

They emigrate to countries where there is high employment... precisely because they can get a job

>14% unemplyoment

I don't see anybody emigrating to Greece...

@Capitán Alatriste they do all the time. But I didnt say "low employment" I said if they move to a country that cant employ all of it's own citizens means new immigrants snag needed jobs

Usually for less pay, depressing wages

14% of Spaniards are unemployed

If the own people of the country aren't taking the absolute lowest paying jobs, then why shouldn't an immigrant?

Because that's how you get wage increases

You just fucked yourself

Except that not all jobs will face job increases

simply because people just don't want to do them

usually they will

Else they wont get done

And if the wage increases the amount of people that will flock to do them will lower the wages again

yep

That's called "a market"

Yeah, and it's not like people are lining up to collect fruits and vegetables

even before large immigration influxes

Then I guess farmers will have to pay workers more, or give incentives

That's a myth. Actually a lot of people who arnt immigrants do food gathering

And in our recession many people would have jumped at the chance for those low skill jobs over unemployment

I would actually prefer immigrants didn't touch my food.

It'd be less infested with e.coli

jesus christ, I know that it's meant as a joke, but I know that you still mean part of it

But we a totally had a huge increase of immigration in 2008

@Capitán Alatriste Which parts the joke?

@Capitán Alatriste all of the us outbreaks recently on veggies have been tracked to undocumented veggie gatherers

They just drop trousers in the field and shit on plants