Message from @Goblin_Slayer_Floki

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2019-10-11 08:48:53 UTC  

more marxist arguments lmao

2019-10-11 08:49:10 UTC  

Not marxist....

2019-10-11 08:49:14 UTC  

yeah it is

2019-10-11 08:49:24 UTC  

Marxists dont see the world in GDP

2019-10-11 08:49:34 UTC  

How do the poor sponsor exactly?

2019-10-11 08:49:36 UTC  

no, they complain about gdp in the exact same way as you

2019-10-11 08:49:57 UTC  

@GeorgyBoyo each citizen would be allowed to sponsor one migrant visa at a time

2019-10-11 08:49:57 UTC  

Humans arnt counted in the gdp atm

2019-10-11 08:50:08 UTC  

Sooo

2019-10-11 08:50:09 UTC  

gdp is literally a measure of human production

2019-10-11 08:50:15 UTC  

Not yet <:Commie_ball:466404411535785995>

2019-10-11 08:50:26 UTC  

Production, and resources of the nation

2019-10-11 08:50:41 UTC  

it's a measure of value added

2019-10-11 08:50:42 UTC  

Humans arnt considered the resources

2019-10-11 08:50:50 UTC  

human production is the resource

2019-10-11 08:51:00 UTC  

If the production is human or robotic it doesnt matter to the gdp

2019-10-11 08:51:14 UTC  

correct

2019-10-11 08:51:18 UTC  

Just flat production

2019-10-11 08:51:27 UTC  

but it's all value that humans get to enjoy

2019-10-11 08:51:34 UTC  

Ergo humans are not a resource and not necessarily the production

2019-10-11 08:51:48 UTC  

So humans themselves are not counted in the gdp

2019-10-11 08:51:59 UTC  

If slavery is adopted...they are

2019-10-11 08:52:04 UTC  

As a resource

2019-10-11 08:52:17 UTC  

I don't understand what you're arguing hre

2019-10-11 08:52:19 UTC  

here

2019-10-11 08:52:25 UTC  

the migrants themselves aren't measured in the gdp

2019-10-11 08:52:28 UTC  

the value they produce would be

2019-10-11 08:52:47 UTC  

But gdp means jack if the PPD tanks

2019-10-11 08:52:54 UTC  

@24601🚄🔰🌐 So everyone can sponsor? Why did you even say the poor then?

2019-10-11 08:53:03 UTC  

PPD?

2019-10-11 08:53:16 UTC  

Average earnings of workers

2019-10-11 08:53:23 UTC  

@GeorgyBoyo because the migrants are paying fat bribes for sponsorship apparently

2019-10-11 08:53:45 UTC  

@GeorgyBoyo Oh just that when there's a financial benefit to be had from sponsoring a visa, the poor would be most eager to capture that benefit

2019-10-11 08:53:57 UTC  

Rofl

2019-10-11 08:54:17 UTC  

@Goblin_Slayer_Floki Average earnings would probably decline, but only because of the changing mix of jobs

2019-10-11 08:54:19 UTC  

They get bribed by the government or the migrants

2019-10-11 08:54:21 UTC  

Topkek

2019-10-11 08:54:30 UTC  

The jobs dont change

2019-10-11 08:54:40 UTC  

it wouldn't be dragging individuals' wages down, except those in the specific industries the migrants are moving into, maybe

2019-10-11 08:54:40 UTC  

Just most would have their earnings tank

2019-10-11 08:54:53 UTC  

@Goblin_Slayer_Floki if we're talking about them doing household labour then yeah they're new jobs