Muammar Gaddafi didn't shoot a person ffs

@JayJS To the same degree as in the middle east? What the fuck.

He is saying you could get shot by government, you say you get shot by hillary clinton

Yuan dynasty was stable for several centuries

For a longer time that US has been stable

US has been stable for 150 years, and that's already a REMARKABLY LONG TIME

Well the US hasnt existed long enough to make that claim

Are you claiming you aren't more safe being in North America, generally speaking, than you are in the middle east? Kek

So... the mongols

No

Fucking logic

Im confused as to wtf youre on about

I am claiming that historically, most empires were far less impactful and oppressive for an average citizen than modern day USA

This whole chat is a clusterfuck

An average roman citizen felt the power of the government far, far less than a modern US citizen

Well thats apples and bowling balls

Roman Empire was a tyrannical empire

same rate they fall

YES

THEY WHERE

Wait, the Yuan lasted less than a century and a half

AND THEN THEY GOT WHIPPED

Almost no nation in the history of the world has lasted more than 2-3 centuries

AGAIN, RELATIVE

This isnt 6th century Italy where if you didnt ride a cart 600 miles to Rome politics wouldnt affect you whatsoever

@JayJS BY THOSE THEY HAD TYRANNY ON

Its all relative baby 😎

99.9% didn't get whipped

And the Yuan has a massive peasant rebellion at least once I can think of

If they all gona get whipped in the end, whats the fucking point ?

Because most of them will not even meet a government official in their life

A big rebellion that changed china forever ?

Again, what is stability?

In my opinion, 2 generations without a major internal war or a rebellion is stable

@JayJS Do you have friends/family in the middle east? How many countries have you personally travelled to there?

@JayJS I would prefer to know who the fuck is my government then to put my head in the dirt like you

A rebellion that was brutally repressed but had a decent novel written about it

A FREE Stable society

Turkey, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt, UAE

How many did you travel to?

So... changed Chinese Lit at least