@Jym how’s fracking environmentally friendly?

Or rather, what is it?

I don’t really know enough about it

google it

Won’t we still eventually run out of oil even with fracking

lol fracking is not good

it ruins the soils

even the more traditional mining methods are better

@Antiboom

OK this is a TL;Dr but still pretty long. We frack for oil mostly lite sweet crude. The process of hydrofracking off-gasses a lot of NatGas as a a *side effect*. The frackers don't have any real use for it and it's a pain to deal with because it's a gas and hard to store. The net outcome is that the cost of NatGas in the US is basically the transportation cost. Due to fracking we have the cheapest NatGas on the planet.

NatGas burns a lot cleaner than other fossil fuels and due to the low cost we have been able to afford new methods like dual-cycle reactors that make it even cleaner and more efficient (in petrochemical pollution is a synonym for waste and loss). This is why our reduction in carbon emissions makes us compliant to treaties we never signed.

@Achlys

That's physically impossible. For a frack to work it has to pressurize the system a mile under the water table. Seepage would prevent the frack from functioning.

It doesn't need pressure, just displacement

Don't speak retarded propaganda

No it requires pressure. To work you have to fracture the rock and release the hydrocarbons. A typical frack runs about 9000PSI.

To put that to scale high pressure steam is 75PSI and a commercial sandblaster is rated at 150PSI.

Fracking is better then being a slave to Saudi petro dollar shenanigans

^

Also being in a giant fracking state, the amount of nonsense i deal with from people who wont even go read current regulation is absolutely amazing

Or

We could just invade Saudi Arabia

Id prefer to just glass mecca

Under the whole “human rights” reasoning

And then just take the oil instead of paying

Sure

Glass it then invade

Couple of nuclear weapons dialed for minimum fallout

Submarine nukes

And when I say a couple I mean an entire SSBN worth of trident IIs

Hahahahah

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Could always blame isrealis

I think they carry a total of 176 warheads?

Nah

Human rights

Can’t violate humans rights if there are no humans to violate the rights of

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I mean we don't *need* the Saudis to begin with. We're a net exporter and that's just oil. When you look at distillates and naptha products in the crack chain it's not even funny.

@Jym i agree, colorados getting ready to slit its own throat

With excess regs

Yeah my little sister was trying to get me to moveout there. She's a pipefitter and I did a lot of downstream operations.