Message from @M4Gunner

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2019-09-11 04:03:51 UTC  

i mean youtube's entire profit problem is caused because their services are free

2019-09-11 04:04:19 UTC  

back in the day users just wouldnt use services if they had to pay for them

2019-09-11 04:04:36 UTC  

but now we have shit like Patreon, netflix, hulu etc.

2019-09-11 04:04:48 UTC  

pandora, spotify. . .

2019-09-11 04:04:49 UTC  

Web 4.0 could solve this by having companies compete for customers by offering hosting space for social media

2019-09-11 04:05:27 UTC  

the other idea is to simply make the creators pay a small fee to upload, and/or a scaling fee based on their subcount

2019-09-11 04:05:49 UTC  

which i think is fine, i'd pay $2 to upload a video

2019-09-11 04:05:49 UTC  

That still leaves a problem of the company needing to host everything

2019-09-11 04:06:10 UTC  

they can host everything as long as they have money coming in

2019-09-11 04:06:40 UTC  

I like my idea better

2019-09-11 04:06:42 UTC  

lol

2019-09-11 04:07:30 UTC  

charging creators would lead to higher quality content overall and less bandwidth use

2019-09-11 04:07:51 UTC  

youtube is storing years worth of crappy videos nobody will watch

2019-09-11 04:08:29 UTC  

well, idk what IPFS is

2019-09-11 04:09:13 UTC  

Distributed/decentralized servers

2019-09-11 04:09:39 UTC  

It's like a RAID cluster, but over many computers across the internet

2019-09-11 04:09:54 UTC  

you could simply make the creator use their own server

2019-09-11 04:10:07 UTC  

>simply

2019-09-11 04:10:21 UTC  

There's nothing simple about that on the front end

2019-09-11 04:10:42 UTC  

sure

2019-09-11 04:11:00 UTC  

thats why you have programmers

2019-09-11 04:12:22 UTC  

Look, you've got a guy that wants to just make videos. He doesn't have time to host things, or have a server that's constantly online, or set up an Amazon web server.

2019-09-11 04:12:35 UTC  

he can just rent a server

2019-09-11 04:13:12 UTC  

that server can set up something that complies with the platform's protocol for interfacing with the platform

2019-09-11 04:13:46 UTC  

Or, he can just upload to the website like normal.

*But the website is what is different.*

2019-09-11 04:13:46 UTC  

both parties meet each other halfway through cooperation

2019-09-11 04:13:52 UTC  

I agree

2019-09-11 04:14:08 UTC  

Most people can't handle YouTube as it is, the stress and having online presence

2019-09-11 04:14:18 UTC  

or again, the creator could just pay the platform for server space

2019-09-11 04:14:35 UTC  

most people arent youtube creators

2019-09-11 04:14:56 UTC  

if all they have to do is pay a monthly bill, they will be fine

2019-09-11 04:14:59 UTC  

Most people as in most youtubers lol*

2019-09-11 04:15:15 UTC  

yeah but they can pay a bill

2019-09-11 04:16:14 UTC  

or they could pay a cut of their ad revenue, which im sure they only get a tiny cut of in the first place on youtube

2019-09-11 04:16:51 UTC  

my main point is, youtube only doesnt make money because its free to watch and to upload to

2019-09-11 04:17:18 UTC  

and bitchute is only a shitty torrentbased site because they must have like no money

2019-09-11 04:19:28 UTC  

Here's my idea:

You've got a person who wants to watch videos
You've got a Web 4.0 social media host that keeps all your data for you, distributed among many servers that the company rents
You've got a video website
You've got a creator

The creator uploads a video pays for it to get hosted, and then the user watches the video. The user likes the video, and saves it to their host for seeding, which they pay for.

Now, the video is hosted from two seeds, the video site and the media host. The more popular it is, the more it's hosted, and eventually the creator no longer has to pay for hosting.

2019-09-11 04:19:59 UTC  

Uh, no.

2019-09-11 04:20:05 UTC  

Fuck you

2019-09-11 04:20:08 UTC  

users dont want to seed videos

2019-09-11 04:20:18 UTC  

Or pay to watch them. kek