Message from @picnicnapkin

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2019-09-12 08:11:23 UTC  

because asians are still based?

2019-09-12 08:12:34 UTC  

And they believe in skills before degenerates

2019-09-12 08:15:54 UTC  

there is no way all the universities will be able to do this, without out of country hiring of extremely underqualified people. The "problem" is evident at career stages well before post secondary

2019-09-12 08:16:30 UTC  

and they are again assuming that interest in all areas of science is 100% evenly distributed across all demographics

2019-09-12 08:16:35 UTC  

which it isnt

2019-09-12 08:17:21 UTC  

but im sure there are a few funded research chairs doing work to show its all discrimination and _huwite privilege_

2019-09-12 08:17:29 UTC  

Yea. All it does is delue the actual talent pool

2019-09-12 08:17:48 UTC  

delue ? dilute?

2019-09-12 08:18:07 UTC  

Dilute

2019-09-12 08:18:22 UTC  

ah

2019-09-12 08:20:31 UTC  

ive seen multiple articles in ACM (main academic org in computer science) magazine arguing that there is a dearth of women because _men_ have systematically discriminated against them and forced them out of the field

2019-09-12 08:21:20 UTC  

the white knighting is extreme

2019-09-12 08:21:28 UTC  

Bullshit. Females dont want jobs that demand them to have a 100h work week minimum

2019-09-12 08:21:44 UTC  

its not even that. they just arent as interested in computer science

2019-09-12 08:22:22 UTC  

and i will admit there may be a factor of many creepy anti social geeks being really into computers

2019-09-12 08:22:36 UTC  

That too. And they get angry when you bring up the Norwegian diversity paradox

2019-09-12 08:23:08 UTC  

its almost like they want to force women to study computer science

2019-09-12 08:23:09 UTC  

lol

2019-09-12 08:23:23 UTC  

Funny how oppressed Iranian woman are engineers

2019-09-12 08:23:36 UTC  

Whereas liberated western wahmen are leeches

2019-09-12 08:24:26 UTC  

they know that the only way to gtfo of their theocratic shithole country is to excel in a field that will get them a job

2019-09-12 08:24:37 UTC  

its a large degree of pragmatism

2019-09-12 08:24:45 UTC  

It the paradox in practice. The more free your society is more likely females will pick a stereotype gender job

2019-09-12 08:25:06 UTC  

so many women ive known in engineering and computer science shift as soon as possible to more people oriented roles as well

2019-09-12 08:25:26 UTC  

or pivot into bizdev or do an MBA to avoid technical work

2019-09-12 08:25:30 UTC  

because they dont like it

2019-09-12 08:25:31 UTC  

and thats fine

2019-09-12 08:26:37 UTC  

yeah but if people being free to choose what they want results in "gendered roles" then clearly its patriarchy and women dont actually want that

2019-09-12 08:26:46 UTC  

Yea if they want to be a nurse so what

2019-09-12 08:27:28 UTC  

at some point the whole "societal pressure" argument is going to fizzle out

2019-09-12 08:27:54 UTC  

there is quite a bit of societal pressure now for women to go into traditionally male dominated roles

2019-09-12 08:28:10 UTC  

Norway did spend millions to get females in to stem fields and the result was that even less females did apply for it

2019-09-12 08:28:19 UTC  

and if they continue to _not_ do that ... what will they say then?

2019-09-12 08:28:26 UTC  

hahaha

2019-09-12 08:28:47 UTC  

yeah my uni here in another euro country spends great effort trying to attract women at all levels

2019-09-12 08:29:00 UTC  

students, grad, profs etc

2019-09-12 08:29:05 UTC  

The recruitment did go back up when the recruitment drive did stop

2019-09-12 08:29:14 UTC  

my advisor ( a dean) said its barely working lol

2019-09-12 08:29:44 UTC  

esp in comp sci .... but if you look at bio/chem/architecture, its female dominated

2019-09-12 08:30:07 UTC  

Know teachers that hates the stay as school if you don't know what you are going to work as mentality

2019-09-12 08:30:59 UTC  

Don't have a plan on your education. Get a job until you find out