oh yea, with a byzantine inspired icon to his left

italians and greeks ripped it all off from the Etruscans anyway

etruscans btfo

if they were so great then why did they get fucking rekt by the roman republic

actually not really, modern day greeks and italians are both running around with 50% etruscan dna

but who raped whom?

I'm just going to assume there was rape

I dunno what happen, but like when I see Etruscan frescoes and statues I stare at them and think my peoples

muh assyrians

@ikillu I thought Etruscans were just the forerunners of Romans ? they weren't ?

no

@Roderick seperate peeps, but I think somehow related common ancestry with both greeks and italians

no one really knows

>seperate peeps
genetically or just culturally ?

both

there are etruscans found in greece early on, same writing language Limnos Greece and a few other spots in even greece

but if modern italians are 50% etruscan, ancient ones would be even moreso

same time they were in central italy

logically speaking, given the info above, I believe Etruscans can be labelled as the forerunners of Romans, partially at least

greece too in a sense, they ripped off quite a bit from them

Reminder that romans were globohomo twats

Reminder horten is a mad hoe that worships zcheniobug

I think Greeks have to do more with Minoans & Mycenaeans than with Estruscans
Not to deny any Estruscan influence, but I think Minoans & Mycenaeans influence and heritage is more supported by both genetic & archaeological evidence

it's like this, west asian type farmers settled throughout europe 10,000 years ago, mostly in what is modern greece and italy, but they cut west through anatolia, then some branch went north and invaded both from the north down through the alps (aryans from the alps) but the farmers were aryans too in a sense, splu branch from the alp aryans

Also

Romans rebelled against estruscans

they were essentially colonized by them

@Roderick minoans and etruscans I would guess were the farmer types who cut west not through the alps

mycenaens were the ones who cut through the alps down and then conquered the minoans or merged with them

just a guess

@ikillu agree....I once read a study concluding that the genetic forerunners of Eropean peoples diverged from a Levantine group severl thousand years after that Levantine group diverged from an Arabian one

phoenicians influence too

sardinians I would say are the farmer types too

and they're somewhat far removed from italians and greeks, like they're own thing

Phoenicians are late
I would suggest using "Natufian" as a more accurate term describing early inhabitants of the Levant

We wuz kangz talk when?

sardinians look 100% greek islander to me, and south east aegean islander, but genetically they're not close